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I changed the .webp thing .... you can too .... google it ... you'll find out how (sorry, don't remember exactly what i did .... it's been a while)
well then, I hope they also get that straight so that you too have something to cheer about! Maybe not taking it lying down, but sounding off about it (give some concrete reasons why they should make the effort) would help?
I installed the Save Image As PNG extension for Chrome so I can save them as png instead of webp
I don't know if other browsers have an extension like this but wouldn't be surprised if they did
I also use GIMP which can convert them to other formats
I and others covered that earlier and throughout the the thread. Products removed from the store no longer have a product page. Some of us use the library pages to remember what we have in our libraries. We use the info as a reference. If it's restored, that will be great!
If I buy something new and get that "this product is not yet released" page ... fun, because, you know - how did I buy it, if it isn't released?
Yes, I am contacting support for each of them.
And many of the old products don't have readmes. Sometimes they are included in the zip, but some of those are VERY rudimentary (less information than was on the product page ...)
Well, this month with the missing information in the product library I spent about 1/3 of my usual amount here. Was about to go down even further. Now I'm waiting for the product information to appear again (holding my breath- at times DAZ seems not to recognize what we customers really need).
Now I understand completely! Yes, I second that. I have also noticed this, since way way back. It#s an unhelpful thing and, in my opinion, there's no really good reason to prune those picts from the system. Why withhold from people reference pictures to products they have bought, even after the product goes bye-bye? At least coral the picts somewhere on the server so that those who didn't buy the product don't have access to these reference picts (to avoid confusion, misunderstandings, or whatever), but keep them visible to those who did buy them. If contractual conditions don't allow for this, then at least rewrite the contract so that future products will have their promo/reference picts remain up for those who purchased their corresponding products in the past.
.webp has compression and does not change the quality, so it has a smaller file size. 30% smaller, to be exact. I just looked it up as I was curious. However, I don't know anything about those- do you have to have the image still on the internet for it to register/show it? Aka, if I have those in folders and click on them, it will open the browser and display them- but what if that image isn't any longer ON the internet, would my .webp image display, that I stored in my folder?
I don't see why it shouldn't, unless the format is 'phoning home' in some way - which would surely have raised a stink by now if it did. I've been converting them to png using Paint of all things... since my photoshop won't open them.
Thank you Daz!! The new layout of the product download page is awesome!!
You are joking I assume
The article I read said Photoshop would open them, but I guess it depends on your version. :)
Latest (or penultimate - subscription from work), but it doesn't want to know without a plugin. Which I should probably download.
Possibly not showing up for you yet, but for me all the info and touch extra is there
@LostUtopian What they mean is, there's no product description- they put back the order number and date, but that was it.
Ah, I see, my bad.
That part does not bother me as I save screenshots with my zip files. Yes, I know not everybody does the zip files. But even if I didn't do the zip files I would still take a screen shot of the products and descriptions of items I purchased. It all stems from the fact that I have items from places such as the 3D Commune, RDNA, Cornucopia and other sites that are no longer around. But I still know what items are that I have from these places even if the product name does not remind me of what it is. And it is much quicker to just double click a saved image and see the picture or description than to hop online and go look for it. I think Daz will be around for some time, but if they did shut down, I'll have all my content and I'll know what it is. So Screenshots are my friend. But we all manage our content in our own way.
Laters
As for webp - as long as they are saved on your computer, they are there. If you want another option than your browser to open them: Irfanview and it's plugins. Freeware ...
https://www.irfanview.com/
I love Irfanview. Been using it since the 90s.
GIMP (https://www.gimp.org/) which is also free will open them
As Novica said, We are still missing information.
Plus at one time we could jump to whatever Product Library page we needed.
When I was redownloading my purchases (when they changed from .exe to .zip archives)
This was very useful because it took me a few sessions to get the lot done.
Having seen it go from that much functionality to a page dumbed down to the level of a bag of hammers, I'd really like it returned to it's former glory.
Firefox has a plugin that allows you to save webp as jpg. Which I use as I don't want webp. At all. Too many programs which don#t work with webp.
Back to the New Product Library:
when (hopefully it's when, not if) they are fixing the product description and put Daz Central in it's place (down there with Daz Connect) it would be nice when they corrected the file type too - at the moment EVERYTHING is a "Daz Studio" file. Even Bryce and Bryce files ... sigh!
doesnt seem possible i can adapt my workflow to the new
design
there is nothing on prodlib page to tell me which figure an outfit or pose set is for
Again, I'm definitely not using my product library as much or for the same purposes as some of you, but personally I'd just as soon the description not be cluttering up the product library page.
For some products, that's definitely problematic. Like any of the Name # figures with their list of features common to that generation. But a simple keystroke combo of Ctrl+End, (Cmd+End on Macs, I assume,) will take one to the end of the page where all the download links are.
More importantly to many of us is the lack of information for products no longer in the store. If Daz wrote the code to show either the product page link for active products or the read me page link for inactive products, that might be sufficient. But then they'd really need to update all the readme files for old products, because so many of those are less useful than the current product library page.
Another option would be to include a snippet from the product page up top, with a link to show "More…" (much like long descriptions on the Gallery pages,) with the link jumping to below the download links to a section containing all the info from the original product page, much as it was displayed before the big layout change. That would keep the download links near the top, as they are now, while still including the product details for those of us who want/need them.
ETA: Attached a mockup of the second option…
In the nearly 15 years that I've been using DAZ products, and with a collection that now stands at two thirds of the total store, I don't recall ever seeing a product description cluttering up the library description page enough to make it unusable unless I was trying to read it on a smartphone.
Where all of this becomes extremely irritating is that, as I just snapped to when a product I just purchased two days ago disappeared from the store without warning,DAZ seems to have stopped publishing Read mes completely in the WIki section. The highest number range that's even shown in the documentation center is 700000-70999, with 70999 being the Samue outfit by Tentman that was released in mid-July. So, whether by intent or not, they're making it increasingly harder for purchasers to manage and spotcheck the actual contents of each product, even on NEW products that are just entering the store. .
But it's the same thing they did with Daz Central. Maybe they believe that it's more important to make a UI pretty to help reel in newbs than it is for it to provide functionality. It all seems really short-sighted and desperate.
The Index might not be there, but the individual ReadMe's after 70999 are definitely available. Pick one, any one, from the list, then type in the SKU in the address bar, replacing the one that's there (i.e., docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/72987/start)
Alternatively reeling in newbs with pretty uis and bright colors is the more finantially stable option and rational choice- If the rate of new users coming in exceeds the people getting fed up an leaving then, financially speaking, that is the correct choice.
... I'm not saying that's a good thing, for the record, just potentially rational