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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited September 2020
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    Post edited by L'Adair on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    Charlie Judge said:

    A prime example of why we NEED the old Product Library Layout:

    Today there is a new product Predatron Ornamental Trees and Bushes. However, there also was at one time PredPack - Ornamental Trees which I own but has now been discountinued. With no description in the Product Library and no Product page to go to I have NO way of comparing the products to to determine if I want the new one.

    Here:


     

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  • Lost_UtopianLost_Utopian Posts: 112
    DAZ_Rawb said:
    ArtAngel said:

    Edited to get rid of some draft of previous post I made.

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks. Good news. Do you know if they will populate the DIM Install column for all the items being sold as DIM Install but only available to install via connect?

    There shouldn't be anything in the store that is Daz Connect only and if you mean DazCentral only there shouldn't be anything like that either. If the product page says that it is DazCentral only, that is a bug in the current store software.

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

     

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    Second day without buying anything. Without a functioning product library, I'm not inclined to do any shopping for things not on my wishlist. Which I culled down to 24. All "might-be-nice-to-have" kicked out, only "must-have-but-not-at-full-price" left. Nothing new gets in there till things return to normal here.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,783
    DAZ_Rawb said:
    ArtAngel said:

    Edited to get rid of some draft of previous post I made.

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks. Good news. Do you know if they will populate the DIM Install column for all the items being sold as DIM Install but only available to install via connect?

    There shouldn't be anything in the store that is Daz Connect only and if you mean DazCentral only there shouldn't be anything like that either. If the product page says that it is DazCentral only, that is a bug in the current store software.

    Thanks. No reply needed. I previously put in a ticket and will mention what you said about it being a bug. Now I can get back to spending my store credit knowing it is only a temporary issue.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,436
    Lost_Utopian said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:
    ArtAngel said:

    Edited to get rid of some draft of previous post I made.

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks. Good news. Do you know if they will populate the DIM Install column for all the items being sold as DIM Install but only available to install via connect?

    There shouldn't be anything in the store that is Daz Connect only and if you mean DazCentral only there shouldn't be anything like that either. If the product page says that it is DazCentral only, that is a bug in the current store software.

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

     

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,783
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

    I downloaded the MG (exe files still available) but not the Rotaions add-on as it is as you said it has never been available for Rotations Add-on

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  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who isn't a fan of the new product library layout.

    Please bring back the purchase date, description, and invoice #.

    Also, why doesn't each product come with the read me file? I know it has been gone for awhile but it has always been a hassle to have to download it from elsewhere.

    If you consider how much I buy, that represents a fair amount of extra time & effort.
  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,481

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited September 2020
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    Oh that's funny!   Especially considering that .txt or even .doc or .docx files are comparatively tiny compared to say your average set of texture files.

    Just looked it up.  .docx is smaller, .doc is about 26kB plus 4kB per page on average.  Just looked up a pose pack that I downloaded, that's usually by far the smallest thing we download on a regular basis, it was 4,232KB.  BTW (I just looked it up), kB is 1000 Bytes, KB is 1024 Bytes.  It's a mac vs PC thing apparently...

    Now, .pdfs can get a bit larger.  I have several in the 4-7 mb range that I looked at just now, but still that's about the size of a pose pack.  If it is a long .pdf, yeah but most readmes are only a page or two.

    Images are in general much larger than txt or even .doc, unless we are talking thumbnail size or something...

    I've downloaded several product packages recently that were over a gig each. 

    So yeah, really lame excuse to not include at least a .txt or .doc readme!

    Post edited by tj_1ca9500b on
  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    Then said readme-files must be bigger than texture files. Very ... interesting.  I was under the impression all the time that text files are among the smallest possible files? DAZ-World really is an alternative universe.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,822
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,309
    L'Adair said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    What gets me is that Daz never comes out and apologizes for inconveniencing customers, either for messing up people's libraries with Daz Central, or now with this.  A little humility would go a long way.

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,756
    Sevrin said:
    L'Adair said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    What gets me is that Daz never comes out and apologizes for inconveniencing customers, either for messing up people's libraries with Daz Central, or now with this.  A little humility would go a long way.

    When you're a big fish in a very tiny pond, you don't have to be humble.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,481
    zombietaggerung said:
    Sevrin said:
    L'Adair said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    What gets me is that Daz never comes out and apologizes for inconveniencing customers, either for messing up people's libraries with Daz Central, or now with this.  A little humility would go a long way.

    When you're a big fish in a very tiny pond, you don't have to be humble.

    Obi-Wan "There's always a bigger fish"

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    tsarist said:
    Also, why doesn't each product come with the read me file? I know it has been gone for awhile but it has always been a hassle to have to download it from elsewhere.

    Probably because there are a lot of products now that no longer have read mes, like many of the products that came in with the RDNA acquisition. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    FirstBastion said:

    Less information on the page is NEVER a good thing.

    ...updates are supposed to improve and advance the functionality and "user experience", not detract from it. 

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    Sevrin said:
    L'Adair said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    What gets me is that Daz never comes out and apologizes for inconveniencing customers, either for messing up people's libraries with Daz Central, or now with this.  A little humility would go a long way.

    DAZ cannot apologize. Daz is not a person it canot think it cannot feel. Can Daz even be said to exist?

     

    (but seriously I don't understand emotional investment in companies. what functional difference does daz being "humble" have for me? does it make products cost less?)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited September 2020

     

    L'Adair said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Therein lies the problem. Reassuring as your post may be, @DAZ_Rawb, it's not definitive. Daz could still decide to leave things as they are today, because they are not providing official word, not making a firm commitment to the customers, that information we want/need will be incorporated back into the Product Library pages.

    Regardless, I really appreciate you taking the time to come in and reassure everybody. However, your post has quickly gotten pushed back as people comment on the topic, replying to earlier posts, before reading to the end of the thread. (As most of us do.) It won't take long for your post to be buried several pages back, with more disgruntled comments on what appears to be Daz taking away valuable information.

    A better solution would be for Daz to communicate with their customers. Let's assume this change is temporary, part of the effort to switchover to new software for the store, and that once the new software is fully integrated into the site, the Product Library pages will revert back to having full information, (prehaps even additional functionality.) The people affected by this change are going to be those who use the Product Libray, so why not include a sentence at the top of the boilerplate that reassures customers the current lack of information is only temporary? For example:

    This page format is currently "under construction." We promise to bring back the information that makes these pages so helpful to you, our customers, as soon as possible, along with some added functionality people have been asking for. Please bear with us as we work on these changes.

    There is a time to keep plans under wraps, and a time to be transparent. Because Daz is not being transparent about the changes to the Product Library, customers are understandably both wary and upset.

    ...+1

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • Lost_UtopianLost_Utopian Posts: 112
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Lost_Utopian said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:
    ArtAngel said:

    Edited to get rid of some draft of previous post I made.

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks. Good news. Do you know if they will populate the DIM Install column for all the items being sold as DIM Install but only available to install via connect?

    There shouldn't be anything in the store that is Daz Connect only and if you mean DazCentral only there shouldn't be anything like that either. If the product page says that it is DazCentral only, that is a bug in the current store software.

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

     

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

     

    Richard Haseltine said:
    Lost_Utopian said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:
    ArtAngel said:

    Edited to get rid of some draft of previous post I made.

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks. Good news. Do you know if they will populate the DIM Install column for all the items being sold as DIM Install but only available to install via connect?

    There shouldn't be anything in the store that is Daz Connect only and if you mean DazCentral only there shouldn't be anything like that either. If the product page says that it is DazCentral only, that is a bug in the current store software.

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

     

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

    On the download page for Mesh Grabber IS listed the words Manual Downlaod, The link says Download Zip even though it will give you an EXE file for this particular item. This is how all of the software and plugins that I have from Daz were downloaded. So it seems that Daz usually does offer their software and plugins in this way. But you know that, you been around here as long as I have. So I'll ask you straight out,, Is Daz dumping the zip file downloads? 

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited September 2020
    Lost_Utopian said:
     
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Lost_Utopian said:

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

    On the download page for Mesh Grabber IS listed the words Manual Downlaod, The link says Download Zip even though it will give you an EXE file for this particular item. This is how all of the software and plugins that I have from Daz were downloaded. So it seems that Daz usually does offer their software and plugins in this way. But you know that, you been around here as long as I have. So I'll ask you straight out,, Is Daz dumping the zip file downloads? 

    @Lost_Utopian, Nothing so devious. From the official thread:

    ManFriday said:

    So, it's out! For those looking for the add-on in their product library after purchase, there were some problems creating the installer for this one so this one needs to be installed using the Daz Install Manager (DIM). Just start DIM and it should show you the add-on and it should be one click from there. Sorry for the inconvenience!

     

    Post edited by L'Adair on
  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Leana said:
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

     

     

    The funny thing is: how do you update the readme if there isn't one? That is not directed at you - it's because I remember that reason each time I am trying to get the readme for recent additions to the store.

    I had to ask repeatedly (updating my ticket more than once) for the Readme for the Construction Bot SKU:67185 to appear ...

     

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    The people that need to be aware of this are aware of this, extra tickets to customer support won't change anything.

     

    As far as I am aware, there are plans to bring back the information that used to be there, but these changes will take time.

    Thanks DazRawb for coming in and trying to keep us informed.

    People are understandably upset. It seems that a person(s) who don't use this site (or any others) thought it made sense to get rid of product information, invoice #, and purchase date and replace it with a giant advert for DazCentral.

    People who want DazCentral already use it and everyone else doesn't want to be bothered. An advert won't help.

    More infuriating is at a company the size of Daz, changing paper clip vendors requires 3 levels of oversight. So this means people who should know better signed off on this.

    Why?

    The pandemic has so many things fouled up and created so much confusion this seemingly small issue perhaps fell through the cracks

    I hope this issue rights itself in short order.

    Thanks for your attention DazRawb, hopefully the powers that be are aware this is an important issue to a good many users and will restore the information soon

    Thanks
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    AFAICR   that has never been said.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Leana said:
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

    Plus of course the current system allows the customers to look at tjhe readme file before they purchase

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Chohole said:
    Leana said:
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

    Plus of course the current system allows the customers to look at tjhe readme file before they purchase

     

    IF it is there ...

  • Lost_UtopianLost_Utopian Posts: 112
    L'Adair said:
    Lost_Utopian said:
     
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Lost_Utopian said:

    So will I be offered a zip file for the Mesh Grabber, Rotations Add-On. I am not being offered one now. Yes, the product page only shows the installs being DIM and DazCentral and not just one of them which is what you are implying above. Is it correct for an item to show DIM and DazCentral but not the Manual Install?

    Daz does not usually offer a plain manual option for software and plug-ins (MeshGrabber and its add-on are plug-ins) - if there's a stand-alone installer that will be offered in addition to DIM/Daz Central, but in this case it appears there isn't.

    On the download page for Mesh Grabber IS listed the words Manual Downlaod, The link says Download Zip even though it will give you an EXE file for this particular item. This is how all of the software and plugins that I have from Daz were downloaded. So it seems that Daz usually does offer their software and plugins in this way. But you know that, you been around here as long as I have. So I'll ask you straight out,, Is Daz dumping the zip file downloads? 

    @Lost_Utopian, Nothing so devious. From the official thread:

    ManFriday said:

    So, it's out! For those looking for the add-on in their product library after purchase, there were some problems creating the installer for this one so this one needs to be installed using the Daz Install Manager (DIM). Just start DIM and it should show you the add-on and it should be one click from there. Sorry for the inconvenience!

     

    Thank you for the response and info L'Adair. I had not seen that posting from the vender. 

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited September 2020
    Novica said:

    @ DAZ_Rawb  Is there a way to go to a certain page in the Product Library, or make that happen?  I'm really, really tired of having to click through page, page, page when I need to get really far into the pages in the library. When the library first came out, you could type the page in the url and it would go there. 

    @cybersox   Hmmm, it hasn't worked for me in over a year I THINK.  We discussed this while ago (and again last month)  on my Art Studio thread, and I pointed this problem out then. So I THINK it actually has nothing to do with this atrocity of a change. Wanna bet when they put back all the information, we STILL won't be able to type in the page in the Product Library. (As you know, I'm right there with you in page numbers in the Library. And I've started from scratch, adding photos to all my files, and if the store glitches or my computer reboots, or I accidentally X out of a page, I have to click click click to get to what, page 400+, either going forward or backward?) 

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,436
    Kerya said:
    Chohole said:
    Leana said:
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

    Plus of course the current system allows the customers to look at tjhe readme file before they purchase

     

    IF it is there ...

    If there's no read me it wouldn't be included in the download either. Obviously we are talking about how it should work, when there is a read me.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Kerya said:
    Chohole said:
    Leana said:
    Robert Freise said:

    The reason (excuse) given years ago was that it made the zip files to big

    The reason I've seen was that having the readme online enabled them to update it without having to update the install packages, and ensured you always read the most up to date version.

    Plus of course the current system allows the customers to look at tjhe readme file before they purchase

     

    IF it is there ...

    If there's no read me it wouldn't be included in the download either. Obviously we are talking about how it should work, when there is a read me.

    Once upon a time it was always included and never forgotten ... poor Readmes.

    LOL

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