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Just the same as me. The odd new item that I really like at 30% off, but other than that, no more than 50% and mostly less than that. I think that's probably what most people will do.
Only when if bundled with a lot of other items will save me more money than not buying it. And even so it may not be full price but a discount I wouldn't purchase it otherwise. I "trained" myself to not buy anything below 60% off (72% if DO) and I'm trying to bump that now to 70%. But it depends on which artists as well. Some artists won't go higher than 60 or 65.
About the same here, and I usually try to save up my DAZ+ PA coupon for the ones who almost never go above 60%. It's not that I begrudge the PAs their earnings, really definitely not, but I'm just not rich enough to buy at full price, and DAZ themselves taught us that they think the worth of their products is basically about half of the asking price.
I wanted to say that the lovely hard working people at Daz support have replied to the support call (on the first page). I don't think I'm allowed to say much (correct me if I'm wrong) so I'll just say that...
They were already aware it's a problem and something may or may not happen in future.
They were not aware of any sales that couldn't accessed in certain regions. I think that's a genuine misunderstaning (yes, technically I could shop at 3 am!) and I have gone back and clarified.
@AndrewJJP, maybe your ticket already worked and alerted DAZ (more) to the problem. Because there was a really nice flash sale on this evening I thought, with discounts up to 70% - and at a decent time for Europeans and other Non-DAZ-time-zoners, too. Not a huge selection but quite nice, I got four items. Maybe we're back in the equation?
I wouldn't jump into that conclusion so quickly. Only time will tell. One or two sales that fits your timezone is statistically insignificant. There should be a established pattern. Besides, is not the first nor second time that sales at this time has occured in the past.
But don't lose hope.
We've just had another flash sale start at 4am this morning.
I guess we'll see. Last night was the best in Europe for a while, it was a good start
, and it was also slightly better than the 11 pm sale and definitely better than the 3 am sale.
To be completely honest, I wasn't very hopeful with the response. They've marked it as solved, and from the perspective of support that's fine because support can't do more than pass it on, which they did. They suggested keeping an eye on the change log for Daz 4.x. I'm not planning to do that as it seems unlikely that marketing strategies will be documented among the new changes and features...
So now we can say that they know the sales aren't fair because they've acknowledged it. We will soon see if they care...
Ah, that'll be my 3 am sale! Fortunately not much in it I wanted. The 11 pm one looked more inteteresting, 19 wishlist items out of 211, but it finished 5 hours before I knew about it. Only 65% though, so no great loss, only one thing I'd have got at that price (and didn't, take not Daz).
At least the best discount of the three was first one, so that was a nice change. We in Europe rarely see anything better than 65%.
There was nothing in my wishlist in the first one, and quite a bit in what I slept through - so I saved a lot more by being asleep. But if DAZ is so willing to help me stick to my spending less goals, who am I to complain?
I tend to limit my spending by buying one gift card a month at a decent discount, then trying to avoid going beyond that. If Daz really wants to limit my spending, what they need to do is start offering all the the gift card deals at 2 am!
This is my goal for this year, because last year my spending behaviour was unforgiving and shameful.
Last time people complained about this issue they deleted all the forum posts to keep it hush hush so yes actually giving a reply is a step in the right direction I guess.
Yes, I think it is positive it's been acknowledged that the sales aren't fair. If nothing happens, then we'll know it's not something they are especially bothered about.
It would be odd if they aren't bothered at least a little bit. Just reading the comments, plenty of people aren't spending money because of this, not because they don't want to, but because they don't get a chance. Surely any company would see that as a problem? And lots of people seem pretty annoyed about it too. That must count for something?
I have to admit, I'm not so enthused while browsing the site as I was, as this is lurking at the back of my mind, and that's going to affect my spending too.
I found it worked pretty well. It feels like you lost your discout when the credt runs out.
I think there are several factors for this, not just DAZ tactics...
I'm almost certain that your library grows faster than the rate at which new assets of your interest come out. So eventually you will run out of interest and excitement because you already have most of the things you wanted.
Also, in my experience, the larger the library the harder it is to find things while I'm creating stuff, which in turn deters me from buying more because it becomes cumbersome to cycle through so many things.
I think I waste more time (read hours) in choosing the "perfect" outfit and pose than dealing with lighting and camera setups.
they never work anyway
SUPERDEALZ coupon not valid like all the others
so not missing much
There is certainly some truth in that. I said I had about 10 wishlist items I'd buy at 60% off, but looking at it more closely, I don't think that's true, it's less than that. I want 8.1 characters ideally, more for the PBR textures as the shapes I tend to make myself, but I won't pay a lot for them - 60% off is not enough. The exception was my favourite character PA, but he seems to have "defected" so that leaves a little less for me here.
Outfits, I don't think there are any where I'm not after a real bargain right now from Daz, and there, the reason is more as you say. I have too much and I know it!
More recently, my Daz spending has been on courses as improving my skills both on the art side and also in the area of content creation feels more positive than just expanding the wardrobe. So the wishlist items where I'm willing to spend more are mostly courses, and they aren't so common.
On the original topic, I think there was a flash sale with Digital Arts Live content, but I didn't buy anything, I can't remember whether that was because it wasn't a good sale or because it was in the middle of the night. Doesn't really matter I guess!
Ah, one of those! Could have got that one actually, just, it was 9 pm... unless it took 2 hours to fix the coupon!
Another awesome flash sale - 80% off up to three selected DO items. It ends in 50 minutes from now.
Ouch, i missed some deals that were available 7 hours ago (i was already sleeping).
Here are yesterday's sales with times from my perspective. ("America" is in the sense of the continent, and "Europe" will include other similar timezones, for example, Africas.)
I'll be honest about this. I'm a bit annoyed right now, because of just how ridiculous that is. How is that reasonable? They even went as far as to restrict "my" sale to three hours. I know it doesn't matter, in the scheme of things, I know that being annoyed is pointless, but just look at the numbers. When was the last time I was offered a discount at that level?
I've been told by support that they are aware of the problem. I take this as, "we are aware of the problem, but we don't care, because most of the people affected don't know about it". Is so, I guess that's probably true.
Support also told me that all sales are offered to all customers. Make of that what you will...
I was kind of lucky yesterday, couldn't sleep because of the wild storm outside - so caught the 70% off sale just as it started. At least it was a little better timing than before, at 3 or 4 a.m., you really don't stand any chances. But I agree, the situation is not very satisfying. Maybe they need more time to adjust their pre-arranged sales schedules?
Well, strictly technically seen this is true... it's not DAZ's problem when people do other things - like sleeping - when they do the offering.
On the other hand it's the perfect example why using a Ticket system for ALL vital communication with a company is BS. Those ticketees can only give answers that are implemented their "ruleset for tickets". No real communication is possible...
Dammit, I missed that one
I'm not surprised by this. And by "this" I mean the incremental discount one after another. The way I see it is that obviously DAZ makes more money if you buy stuff at 60% vs 80% off. Therefore, they throw you the first bait at 60% so you spent most of the money buying stuff at a lame discount and then they throw you a better discount so can you only buy very few things if any. In that way DAZ minimise selling items at super cheap prices but gave you something so you feel at least you got some chance.
I'm not sure if I explain myself properly (I think I failed) but is something around those lines.
Bottomline: Lame discount first and you spent your money, better discount later but you don't have any money left, DAZ wins. I've seen this before. Problem is you never know when DAZ will do it again and you are forced to spend hours checking the website on a daily basis.
It was about 6:50 when I saw the 80% one. Far too late to have a proper look, but I did have time to find one wishlist itme and check out in time. So I was pretty lucky too.
But it's not great. I don't mind the 20% introductory discounts so much, because at least they are the same for everyone.
Agreed. All support could really do for this one is pass on the feedback... and tell me that technically anyone could get the sale.
But they did at least respond fairly quickly. I've had a technical query issue open for 9 days. I'll chase after a month...
I'm quite sure they didn't do it because they want to annoy people, and the tactic you described there makes perfect sense. What frustrates me is the other "rules":
Those rules, combined with the "better and better" tactic mean that people in my timezone and those nearby will always miss the best deals.
Change those rules and they can have a fair system. Would it be so hard to launch the new day's products at different times of the US night? Would it be so hard to run sales in my morning? They could do just the same tactic at 9 AM, 12 PM and 4 PM my time, but I doubt they ever will...
They just replied to my technical query!