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Bummer, I just missed the 80% one yesterday. Caught a glimpse of the banner at the very moment the store switched over. Oh well.
I wrote about the timezone problem in my sales feedback yesterday. Maybe we should all just keep doing that until it's being properly attended to.
Yikes, that's a shame to miss out on a 80% off because trying to sleep at a somewhat normal time...
Yes, I think we should. It doesn't strike me as a very hard problem to solve. If the can run a run-of-the-mill sale at 8 PM, then they can run a good one.
I would be interested to know when I was last offered 80% off while I was awake!
Well, I said I'd point out every time this happens. And today, I seem to be in a sarcastic mood, so sorry in advance!
All times GMT:
Perhaps they are trying to annoy people across the Atlantic? What other reason could there be for running an "extended" 5-hour sale at the most inconvenient time possible while they reduce the length of our (not very good) sale we can get to on 16th?
(Sorry, I forgot. Support told me that all promotions are available to all customers. I'll set the alarm for 3 AM tomorrow and maybe pick up some bargains!)
Yeah - when I saw the flash sale last night, I thought there might come a better later.
But I couldn't care and went to sleep.
Same here. I saw the sale and made a mental note to see what people on the other side of the planet were offered when I woke up. Then I went to sleep...
Same here. If they don't want us to buy ...
I was happy with the 50% (65% for 4 items) flash sale because they offered products from vendors. 65% is a very good discount and I hadn't a problem to buy 4 items because I have only started in november with Daz. There is a Twitter account which posts flash sales and last year higher discounts for vendors seemed mostly available in blink sales.
Lots to learn you have, young Yeti, about DAZland...
Considering that about every item in the shop is supposed to hit the shelves during a 50% off sale sooner or later, considering these 50% off as the "real price" is the way to go. With this base, getting 65% isn't that much of a deal. And having to buy 4 items to get them cheaper does indeed work nicely for newcomers, but gets a wee bit more complicated as soon the "owned items" list hits a certain mark, especially one is inclined to only buy stuff that one (might) need(s).
And having to get up in the middle of the night for a mediocre deal isn't something that many people are inclined to do, I'd expect...
There was another massive flash sale while I was sleeping again? This is really annoying
I'm voting with my wallet. My spendings on DAZ items have slowly declined over tha last year and are declining still. Other stores now get the majority of my money. There, sales last al least 24 hours, much more fair.
This.
I agree with most of it. However, whether 65% is a good deal or not depends heavily on the PA. Some PAs rarely go higher than 60% off, Zeddicus, Aeon Soul, OOT just to name a few (from the top of my head). And others are rarely ever on sale. So, you need to kind of have a memory of which items go off on sale and by how much. Luckily the DAZ deals add-on helps a lot with that.
...Sigh...
The world has 24 timezones and yet people are still arguiing as if there was only two. You know, there are more than just MST and GMT and their daylight saving times, right? Whenever the flash sales suits you, someone somewhere will be screwed over. The only way to satisfy everyone is to have the flash sale repeated 3 times, assuming 8 hrs of sleep, 8 hrs of work and 8 hours for other activities (i.e., buy stuff from daz).
Or simply have them last 24 hours?
That wouldn't be a flash sale though?
Perhaps run a block of 4 flash sales of 2 hours each. Then repeat the block after the 8th and 16th hour. That would spread each flash sale evenly at 3 different times within the same timezone, regardless of the timezone. So each person around the world will get the same treatment.
There has always been a perception that Europeans miss the best deals. I just set out to see if that's true or not. On all the evidence I've looked at, it is true. I chose GMT because it's worst affected (see below for the reason) and because it's easiest for me because it's my timezone and I can avoid having to do the conversions. I use the times at which my emails arrive to work out when sales start and those times are in GMT. When I was more prepared to spend time on this, I did charts for GMT, MST, EST and AEDT, but that was a fair bit of effort to put together, and I don't plan to do it again!
Those charts did not look at what the discounts were, but more recent evidence shows that they start low and build up. So we know...
So what we have is a mess where the Americas get everything on offer, and other people are an afterthought. The requirement, from my perspective, is to be fair to everyone wherever they live.
The requirement from a Daz perspective is to make money. They don't care about whether I get the deals or not. That's pretty obvious from their admission they know this is a problem. If they know it's a problem, and they still do it, then they don't care. The only thing I can do is shop more in other places. Oh, and moan about it!
That would work, and if they must do flash sales, it seems a pretty good solution. I think even doing it twice, 12 hours apart would be fair as well. I don't think anyone would miss out (?)
The really weird thing in all this is for me: You make sales so people get a chance to buy things at the advertized lower prices, right? Then somebody tells you that a large group of people doesn't have a chance to buy in your sales, for a reason you can easily change. Why, WHY would you not gratefully seize that chance and make your sales even more accessible, so more people can buy? I just don't get this at all. Why would you want to make it hard or even impossible for people to buy your stuff??!
It seems mad. I hope the reason isn't that they do it because they think that hardly anyone will notice what happens while they are asleep.
Once you do notice, you tend to stop buying stuff.
I like to look into things and gather evidence before I make a decision, and I thought initially I was imagining it. When I knew it was really happening, and when they told me they know about it, my spending here fell off a cliff. Why would I buy stuff if I know I'm made to pay more purely because of where I live? All I can do is wait for the decent sale that never comes.
That is also my strategy.
And then there is also other shops.
I don't htink Daz wants 12-hour long flash sales. In my opinion the whole point of short period of times is to create a sense of urgency in the potential buyer and therefore force us to buy without giving too much of a thought for fear of missing out on the deal.
Oh sorry, I meant short sales that are repeated 12 hours apart. E.g. 1 PM - 5 PM and 1 AM to 5 AM.
Ah yes yes, like Rendo did not long ago.
It's 9 AM and there is a flash sale! How good is that?
Whether there is anything for me, I'm not sure yet, but it's never happened to my knowledge, and I am pleased that Daz seems to have taken the feedback on board.
Thanks Daz!
Your name was the first tthing that came to mind when I saw this. This is progress. Well done.
I hope it is not a one-time clock malfunction... I was quite a bit shocked when I saw this flash sale today.
Wow, this is a first for me. Well done for listening DAZ!
To promote this I will probably buy a few things today.
I bought some stuff too, for just that reason.