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But it has an impact on the membership new release discount for DO's therefore can indirectly be seen to reduce the value of the membership. At a time when many of us are having to consider our spending I know that it will empact on my decision to renew or not.
Reminds me on (Video):
Jokes beside, this is propably just a glitch and will be fixed soon.
Weird things seem to be happening to prices in general right now. The new releases today: 15 bucks full price for one single not particularly special crown? Almost 20 for some gloves?? Why on earth would I be paying that???
Gloves I can see could be tricky, but the crown struck me as odd. But neither very appealing at 20%: will just have to wait some time.
Been gone for about 6 months and the price increases was the first thing I noticed. Products that were perhaps 19.95 were all marked up in the low to mid twenties. Guess there's no escape from inflation.
Yet another nail in the Daz coffin. Perhaps it's time to start learning more about Blender.
Steve.
It is not a glitch. I raised a ticket yesterday that the introductory discounts are incorrect. I got the answer that it is intended, and that it might or might not stay that way.
Daz marketing has chosen a very inappropriate time to - basically - increase prices. I can only spend at the Daz store what I do not need elsewehere. Now, prices are going up on energy, food, etc. So the money left for Daz is already less than it used to be.
...yeah I agree, it's going to hurt PAs as well.
I've purchased new items before because they were something I was waiting to finally see released. Now anything I am interested will end up on the wishlist until it ends up in a sale or Fastgrab.
Already felt a disincentive when instead of just one "New Release" discounts began to require purchase of an entire bundle or multiple New Releases which far offset any savings unless you dumped a lot of money into the specific sale. A good number of us here don't have the level of resources to be able to drop 100$ or more in a single purchase which is about what it takes.
Other sites are becoming more and more interesting when looking for outfits and environments, and the quality there is definitely going up too lately.
Not to mention, on other sites I still regularly see outfits for other figures, like G3, as well. It's sadly all G8.1 here, not even G8, meaning I have to waste time converting things which offer no added benefits over G8, but would've been compatible with G8.1 out of the box anyway if they had been developed for G8 instead..
So the only real draw left at the Daz Store are the tools that make Studio work more convenient or which add features that sometimes should've been part of the main program in the first place. If it wasn't for the likes of Riversoft, Sickleyield, Zevo, Bitwelder and a handfull of others, I would've departed a long time ago already. I probably would've missed some good and useful other stuff along the way, but meh.
Oh, and as a European, Flash Sales obviously only help piss me off even more, since they tend to run only in the middle of the night when I'm asleep.
Daz should realize that the lower the prices, the more money they can get (with some limits of course). This is a well known marketing rule. People can easily buy 50 items that they do not need at $2 each, but they will hesitate to buy a single item at $100 even if they really want it.
And the new items discount is a way to force users to visit the site every day. Other sites like r.....y have well understood that and new assets are generally at 50% off if not more for a couple of days. If the "new" discount is reduced and if daz continues to have terrible offers associated to them (like today's "get one item at $7 for every new item you purchase"), people will no longer have any reason to visit daz3D daily (especially if the forums are down!).
Looks like any new releases I'm interested in go to the wishlist until a better sale price comes along or I decide I really don't need it after all.
I feel sorry for the PAs...they are the ones that are going to lose out in the long run, either from people waiting for a bigger discount or simply not buying items at all.
I have more than enough content to keep me busy as it is.
I was just coming here to ask about this. I feel for the PAs who are caught in the middle but it does seem like the value of shopping here is decreasing little by little and chopping 10% off of the new release discounts is just the latest version of that. It's a shame because that new Mousso figure looks amazing and the attic set is certainly tempting but this change is just enough to keep me from impulse buying.
Do the spending habits of people here on the forum impacts total sales? It could be we don't really impact that at all. The people on a forum are interested enough to be on a forum, but we may not represent the bulk of customers.
Could very well be the case. In the past we have been told, e.g. by forum moderators, that our oppinion might not reflect the Daz community. Daz as a company does not seem to utilize their own forum a s a feedback channel very much.
I am very much appreciate this forum, especially the PA's that contribute. I am preferring those PA's that do participate a lot over those that "only" sell their stuff via Daz.
I can see PA sales suffering and us losing some PA's and choice.
Can't see anything other than lost revenue allround myself.
I almost never post on here, but having seen this and hoping that they're actually reading, my spending has grown less and less over the years, and with this increase in cost it will completely stop. I have enough stuff that I don't need anything further anyway.
I think part of the problem is the target market for DAZ seems to have changed on their end. At one point, they really were targeting hobbyists and people wanting to get into 3D art. Overtime, this model seems to have shifted. I don’t know many hobbiests who could keep up purchasing at these prices. I used to wake up in the middle of the night to see what was new (and more often than not buy something). I have 16,600+ pieces in my install manager. Honestly, I have enough content to play with till the cows come home (hell, I have a DAZ cow). But I’ve watched as my buying power at DAZ has dwindled. The prices have gone up and amount of content one gets has simply dwindled. I used to flock to the new pro releases. Now, I rarely purchase a new DAZ figure because they’re outlandishly priced with hardly any supporting content. DAZ also does not seem to appreciate its customers any more. Maybe I was just lucky to start DAZ when I did, but they’ve changed, and not for the better, in the last few years. I will miss the company that sent me a free 3D printed Victoria in the mail for being a good customer. I can’t imagine this new DAZ doing something like that.
The content that Daz sells is basically all dependent on content creaters, aka PA's. If they do see their sales going down the drain, how long would Daz be able to sell something NEW? And beleive me, some PA's do already wonder why there released products do not sell as expected.
I had already reduced my purchases to Wednesday's for DAZ+, or as I still think of it, PC+, items and the free product(s). If I had seen a new product during the previous week, I might have it in the cart, but the cart was restricted to how much the total could go to. I violated it once, but cut back last week severly. But honestly, I haven't seen much I am interested in. And installing and reinstalling my content onto two computers, makes me realize how much I do have, and how little I use it, or how hard it is to find it.
I saw that discount of 20% yesterday and thought it was an error, but guess not. So, yeah, new items will go on the wish list and maybe, just maybe, one day I won't remove it, and I just might hand over some money. I hate to see what they are going to do to DAZ+ prices tomorrow. Their decisions will determine if I renew in August.
To the PAs who are working to make quality products I do buy faithfully, I am sorry. I appreciate your efforts and that you also need to support your families and survive. I feel this is a cash grab by the store, not you.
Mary
That makes me sad to hear they said it might stay. A lot of times I'll buy a new release I might need down the road because it's neat, but at 20%? That won't happen anymore as very rarely do I need those items that very day. Glad I've started learning how to model stuff in blender and have the Human course to learn sculpting people as I doubt I'll be renewing my daz+ membership and such now. Not just because of this price increase, there's been a number of things happening I've been unhappy with here, this is just the straw that broke the camel's back situation. I've even begun not coming here on the forums as often as I have the past few years.
Ah well, more time to use the stuff I have.
Redacted
Untextured, no more than an hour in Blender - if I add a lot of small details; could whip up something semi-acceptable in less than half that.
The presumption seems to be that this is a move by Daz, I can't help wondering how much input the PA's had and if it wasn't possibly requested by them.
fortunately one doesn't have to buy content
lesser new discounts removes the urgency too so one buys stuff when they need it.
the lousy Australian dollar has already curbed my spending for some time, even the deep sales honestly were not worth it with a 50% markup after conversion to AUD.
art investment choices by DAZ already soured me as well and led me to unsubscribing to their Youtube channel and resulting in me to cease mentioning and linking products in my video descriptions,
I am actually not complaining, it's been to my benefit and gotten me out of a spending cycle of collecting assets I don't render.
i was saddened by another day of 20% off new releases. Ass many of attested to, my spending has also gone down, and at thie, even a miserly 10%, it will decrease more. Look at it from a personal income point of view, has your income increased 10%? I know mine hasn't, ever, for at least 20 years. So costs go up, income stagnate, spending goes down. Simple economics.
I'm another on the bubble, leaning to not, on reneweing my DAZ+ membership. One other noted thing, the overall forum participation seems to be declining to me.
My largely unimportant 2 cents as a DAZ Customer from the Vicky 1 days, this represents the final shedding of the previous DAZ. It's been a stepwise progression where the 1.99 for Platinum Club items started inching up and then the change in bundles and sales, etc. As of this change, I suspect all of the old DAZ idealogies are truly gone. Not that it matters, as a whole, but it does tell me that they are probably no longer focussed on hubbyists. I used to think DAZ' business model was genius: Basically, get a monopoly on the hobbyist monthly spending. After all, if folks like me had X dollars to spend and DAZ could capture most of it by offering a crazy good value in exchange, it was much more profitable than if they had to share it with 1 or more other sites. With the changes they've been making, it's much more about making as much from a given product as the market will bear. That market obviously includes lots of non-hobbyists, so many of us will end up looking elsewhere for content. Luckily, there are still sites who do good work.
I could make one in a day
And likely, give it away.
soliciting information - someone please list here if legal, or message me all these other stores that I can buy decent product for DS. I know of 2 right now as my favorites have slowly closed.
Those have been the days. Unfortunately I stored my 3D printed Vicky in a box with other stuff so that her hands came off. Need to fix that with some plastic glue someday ;-)