How are you greeting the end of the world?

Wonderland

DisparateDreamer said:

It's important to note a lot of herbal remedies can have stronger than intended effects on liver, kidneys, stomach, etc, as its not always measured the same way, and can interact badly with medications, such as ptsd, anxiety, antibiotics, antiviral, etc. 

 

That said, I'm learning some of the milder herbal stuff, more as a health choice than medicine. THey have Traditional Chinese medicine here where I live and they in the past several years have had doctors start checking patients for mixing traditional medicine with new/modern medicine (and sometimes having very dangerous results/toxicity that shows up a lot later). That's why its important to ask your doctor. 

The only prescription medication I take is asthma inhalers but I hope all the vitamins and herbal supplements I'm taking don't interfere with EACH OTHER! I did mention them all in an email to my doctor but he's especially busy now so I'm not sure if he had time to look at them that cafefully... (Although I just started eye drops for some kind of eye infection so I hope the herbal supplements don't interfere with that! ) 

kyoto kid

...I was on Metformin but there have been some concerns about long term side effects that have recently arisen.  Need to get re-evaluated, however right now healthcare workers more than have their hands full so that has to be put on hold 

lorraineopua

memcneil70 said:

And we have it on the authority of the New Zealand Prime Minister that not only the Easter Bunny is essential, but the Tooth Fairy is as well. Boy, that woman is great!

 

Extremely fond of my PM, she's the best person to be leading us through this, bar none.

 

lorraineopua

If anyone likes stage shows, Jesus Christ Superstar is free to watch on Youtube for another 38 hours. I saw it on stage in Auckland in the mid 70s with the late Jon English playing Judas. Still think he was the best but Tim Minchin does a fine job too. Mel C from the Spice Girls is fantastic as Mary Magdalene and a chap Ive not heard of before, Ben Forster, is a fine Jesus.

 

kyoto kid

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

Ivy

I just wanted to pass this along to anyone that lives in The USA and has a Small Business .

 you can apply for a Advanced Economic Injury Disaster Loan which really is an grant for small business https://www.sba.gov/disaster-assistance/coronavirus-covid-19#section-header-3

I was notified by letter this morning that my small graphic artist business Ivysdomain.com qualified for a $9000 relief grant.  You will need a legal tax Id and or a EIN number to complete the form . the letter i got said my grant will be direct deposited April 16th which is about 8 days after i applied for it. which was on was 4/02.  So if you have a small business with state Tax Id #  you really should apply for relief & see what you qualify for. This means it won;'t need to be paid back for individual running a small business who can show loss of income during the crises date period .  Good Luck

edited to fix link url

Mistara

kyoto kid said:

...I was on Metformin but there have been some concerns about long term side effects that have recently arisen.  Need to get re-evaluated, however right now healthcare workers more than have their hands full so that has to be put on hold 

humalog qwik pen is what i use.  cant see the lines or numbers, i count the clicks

kyoto kid

...can that be administered in the arm? When I was in the hospital after the fall I had a year and a half ago, they used a small pen like device that injected insulin in the arm and it was totally painless.

Mistara

kyoto kid said:

...can that be administered in the arm? When I was in the hospital after the fall I had a year and a half ago, they used a small pen like device that injected insulin in the arm and it was totally painless.

supposed to inject in s fatty tissue area.  can do arm, but is hard to pimch up the skin and inject at same time.  i inj my lower tummy
the pen needles a LOT cheaper on amazon than cvs.  40 vs 8.99  hunalog cheap compared to the other pens.  toujeo after ins was 78 , humalog 28   humalog doesn't have the side effect warning horrors the other pens have.  toujeo - fatty liver disease.  victoza - thyroid cancer.  be wary of the pills and pancreatic complications, chronic yeast infections.   dunno if dudes can get yeast infs

i miss my foot dr.  he made house visits to check my toes.  havent seen my eye dr either.  waiting to get cataracts fixed.

my cousin's knee surgery was postponed and friend at work was going for colon cancer follow up surger.  they postponed it.  doesn't seem tp me smething that should be postponed.  if he dies, do thay count that as a virus related death? 
the cancer meds reduces his immune system.  scared for him.

dennisgray41

SlimerJSpud said:

Taoz said:

 

SlimerJSpud said:

"My doctor told me to stay away from alcohol. I told my doctor to stay away from me!" -- Rodney Dangerfield

The doctor's name was Al Cohol.

The Kinks did a marvelous song titled "Alcohol" done in the style of those English music halls of days gone by. "Oh, demon alcohol, sad memories I can recall..."

Caveman ventured outside today only to be confronted by blinding hot object in sky. Caveman frightened. Caveman retreated back inside!

One article I read about the Great TP Shortage of 2020 is that it's a supply chain problem. Office buildings, hotels, and restaurants mostly use the commercial/industrial grade 1-ply (garbage) TP. At home, people mostly use fancy 2-ply name brands. When people stopped speding 40 hrs/week in their offices and factories, pooping in the office rest rooms, the whole supply chain was unbalanced. Hoarding is only part of the problem. The rest is caused by a sudden drop in demand for the industrial grades, and a spike in demand for the home grades.

They make that industrial grade where I live. Always hiring new people.

kyoto kid

Mystiarra said:

kyoto kid said:

...can that be administered in the arm? When I was in the hospital after the fall I had a year and a half ago, they used a small pen like device that injected insulin in the arm and it was totally painless.

supposed to inject in s fatty tissue area.  can do arm, but is hard to pimch up the skin and inject at same time.  i inj my lower tummy
the pen needles a LOT cheaper on amazon than cvs.  40 vs 8.99  hunalog cheap compared to the other pens.  toujeo after ins was 78 , humalog 28   humalog doesn't have the side effect warning horrors the other pens have.  toujeo - fatty liver disease.  victoza - thyroid cancer.  be wary of the pills and pancreatic complications, chronic yeast infections.   dunno if dudes can get yeast infs

 

....doesn't sound the same as what they used. 

ArtAngel

SlimerJSpud said:

"My doctor told me to stay away from alcohol. I told my doctor to stay away from me!" -- Rodney Dangerfield

The truth is two things kill the coronavirus. Bleach (clorox-Javax) and alcohol. I don't drink bleach. But I am thinking this is a good time to redo an old 2d book trailer I made using 2D graphic images into something better using some of my 3D assets. I am open for ideas. This is probably a bad time to address a video about breathers and people eager to die but I wrote this book a few years ago before the pandemic and am currently redoing the cover and hopefully the video, if I ever refinish painting the flood damaged rooms. Am seriously reconsidering Mr. Bean's painting methodology

lorraineopua

kyoto kid said:

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

You lucky bugger! I was 17 when the movie came out in NZ. I took the night train from Taumaranui to Auckland and stayed the night in a cheap hotel, went to the movie then took the night train back to Taumaranui. Totally worth it. A couple or three years later my sister and I went to the stage show in Auckland at His Majesty's Theatre, not the original cast but stunning nevertheless.

ArtAngel

kyoto kid said:

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

Loved it, and was fortunate to see it live, during 1973 in Canada. Was also lucky enough to see Cats twice, Phantom of the Opera twice, Evita (Don't cry for me Argentina) once and a few less popular lives. My favorite live rock performances were Bowie and the Stones. When I took my 'new' hubby to see the movie release of Phantom he leaned over and loudly whispered, are they planning to sing through the entire movie. I laughed so loud, almost got kicked out.

nicstt

LeatherGryphon said:

SlimerJSpud said:

Speaking of natural products, does anybody have a source for genuine bear grease? At the rate things are going, I'm going to need some for my hair!

The bears around here don't squeek so we've never needed any bear grease.  Now, mouse grease, that's another story.

nicstt

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

they do get less lethal though as ther purpose is not actually to kill the receipiant but to replicate

They don't really get less lethal; the population they infect develops herd immunity. That process kills people.

 

LeatherGryphon

ArtAngel said:

kyoto kid said:

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

Loved it, and was fortunate to see it live, during 1973 in Canada. Was also lucky enough to see Cats twice, Phantom of the Opera twice, Evita (Don't cry for me Argentina) once and a few less popular lives. My favorite live rock performances were Bowie and the Stones. When I took my 'new' hubby to see the movie release of Phantom he leaned over and loudly whispered, are they planning to sing through the entire movie. I laughed so loud, almost got kicked out.

We (my partner and I) also saw Phantom of the Opera twice, once in London at "Her Majesty's Theater".  In that small old theater, the fog from the boat scene rolled off the stage and filled the front of the orchestra seats area where we sat in shoulder deep fog. Cool!   The second time was in Washington DC a couple of years later at the Kennedy Center where we both dressed up in costumes appropriate to the masquerade scene.  We also saw Cats twice.  First time in NYC while on a business trip to a company in New Jersey, I'd taken my other half with me for the 3 or 4 day job.  The project was very successful and the client was very happy.  My company called back before we started home to Washington, DC and since it was my birthday, told me to go into NYC, get a hotel and take in a show, on them.  Cool!   So, we stayed at the Marriott in Times Square.   And saw Cats and did other things in the city.  Second time to see Cats was in Washington, DC at "The National Theater"  on Pennsylvania Ave near the White House.  My brother and his family (wife and two kids (about 10 and 8) were in town visiting.  So, partner and I rented a limousine for the evening and took them to the theater and fine dinner afterwards, in style.  It was a major treat for us too.  Also since the president of our small motorcycle club was a big deal at the theater, the kids were invited backstage after the show.   When they came back they were very excited about having seen the huge boot prop. Way cool, but now as adults they don't remember it.  The only other major Broadway type show that I've seen was Chicago, again at the National Theater in Washington, DC.  The president of our small motorcycle club got tickets for the entire club (about 8 of the dozen or so members attended) for a performance.  We sat in box seats immediately above the left front of the stage.  Could have almost reached out and touched the actors.  

Ooh, ooh, wait..., I just remembered, (damn ancient brain) my partner and I also saw La Cage Aux Folles (tr: Birds of a Feather).  But not with Gene Barry.  We also saw Les Misérables.  Both were at the Eisenhower Theater in the Kennedy Center in Washington,DC, back in the late '80s or early '90s.

Sigh, ancient brain is very slow..., we also saw The Mikado at the Kennedy Center.  (Yeah, I know, it's an opera but I'm a Gilbert & Sullivan fan and wanted to mention it.  Besides, The Mikado is almost as entertaining as a Broadway type show. ) I think I'm done now.  I've also seen various other operas over the years in various places but that's a story for another time, hopefully before my brain turns entirely to mush.

WendyLuvsCatz

nicstt said:

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

they do get less lethal though as ther purpose is not actually to kill the receipiant but to replicate

They don't really get less lethal; the population they infect develops herd immunity. That process kills people.

 

the virus that dies with the victim does not get to replicate as much as the one that infects the victim that lives so through natural selection the ones that survive the longest get to infect more people 

kyoto kid

ArtAngel said:

kyoto kid said:

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

Loved it, and was fortunate to see it live, during 1973 in Canada. Was also lucky enough to see Cats twice, Phantom of the Opera twice, Evita (Don't cry for me Argentina) once and a few less popular lives. My favorite live rock performances were Bowie and the Stones. When I took my 'new' hubby to see the movie release of Phantom he leaned over and loudly whispered, are they planning to sing through the entire movie. I laughed so loud, almost got kicked out.

..also (ironically) saw the 1972 revival of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum during that same trip. 

McGyver

SlimerJSpud said:

Taoz said:

 

SlimerJSpud said:

"My doctor told me to stay away from alcohol. I told my doctor to stay away from me!" -- Rodney Dangerfield

The doctor's name was Al Cohol.

 

One article I read about the Great TP Shortage of 2020 is that it's a supply chain problem. Office buildings, hotels, and restaurants mostly use the commercial/industrial grade 1-ply (garbage) TP. At home, people mostly use fancy 2-ply name brands. When people stopped speding 40 hrs/week in their offices and factories, pooping in the office rest rooms, the whole supply chain was unbalanced. Hoarding is only part of the problem. The rest is caused by a sudden drop in demand for the industrial grades, and a spike in demand for the home grades.

I didn't read an article about that, but I was independently wondering about the fancy vs prison grade toilet paper supply chain disruption... one article I did read was about someone in the toilet paper industry saying they had no intention to up the supply of consumer grade toilet paper because they didn't want there to be a sudden drop in demand once the quarantine is over because lots of people will have leftover hoarded supplies... but that struck me as a big Eff-You to people who didn't horde, live on tight budgets who can't really stock up, people who have to carry groceries home because they can't afford a car or delivery, the elderly who can't drive around to 80 different stores, searching to find one damn package, and just all consumers in general... I hope more people buy bidets or Sponge-On-A-Sticks and even after the demand goes down the TP industry ends up having screwed themselves by doing that... unlikely, but it would be fitting... I've had it in for the TP industry ever since they all start loosely rolling the paper and touting it as "UltraSuperFantasticMagicalMega Rolls - 12 rolls = 752 regular rolls"  

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/08/the-dirty-little-secrets-of-toilet-paper/index.htm

I'm imagining that by the time the quarantines are over, a lot of small suburban waste treatment plants will be having troubles due to higher volume than they were designed for, from those who normally work away from home but are now stuck at home... same goes with septic systems, there will probably be a huge demand on the smaller companies that do home pumping as opposed to the big ones which do industrial contracts.

There are going to be so many interesting and stupid changes brought about this pandemic... besides the obvious ones which are obviously not so obvious to those it should be most obvious to.

billyben_0077a25354

McGyver said:

SlimerJSpud said:

Taoz said:

 

SlimerJSpud said:

"My doctor told me to stay away from alcohol. I told my doctor to stay away from me!" -- Rodney Dangerfield

The doctor's name was Al Cohol.

 

One article I read about the Great TP Shortage of 2020 is that it's a supply chain problem. Office buildings, hotels, and restaurants mostly use the commercial/industrial grade 1-ply (garbage) TP. At home, people mostly use fancy 2-ply name brands. When people stopped speding 40 hrs/week in their offices and factories, pooping in the office rest rooms, the whole supply chain was unbalanced. Hoarding is only part of the problem. The rest is caused by a sudden drop in demand for the industrial grades, and a spike in demand for the home grades.

I didn't read an article about that, but I was independently wondering about the fancy vs prison grade toilet paper supply chain disruption... one article I did read was about someone in the toilet paper industry saying they had no intention to up the supply of consumer grade toilet paper because they didn't want there to be a sudden drop in demand once the quarantine is over because lots of people will have leftover hoarded supplies... but that struck me as a big Eff-You to people who didn't horde, live on tight budgets who can't really stock up, people who have to carry groceries home because they can't afford a car or delivery, the elderly who can't drive around to 80 different stores, searching to find one damn package, and just all consumers in general... I hope more people buy bidets or Sponge-On-A-Sticks and even after the demand goes down the TP industry ends up having screwed themselves by doing that... unlikely, but it would be fitting... I've had it in for the TP industry ever since they all start loosely rolling the paper and touting it as "UltraSuperFantasticMagicalMega Rolls - 12 rolls = 752 regular rolls"  

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/08/the-dirty-little-secrets-of-toilet-paper/index.htm

I'm imagining that by the time the quarantines are over, a lot of small suburban waste treatment plants will be having troubles due to higher volume than they were designed for, from those who normally work away from home but are now stuck at home... same goes with septic systems, there will probably be a huge demand on the smaller companies that do home pumping as opposed to the big ones which do industrial contracts.

There are going to be so many interesting and stupid changes brought about this pandemic... besides the obvious ones which are obviously not so obvious to those it should be most obvious to.

Tyhe wife and I didn't hoarde TP just bought what we needed.  She bought a 12 pack the first of March and she did buy one more 16 pack just to hedge our bet but nothing like the idiots who are buyng 2 to 3 hundred rolls every chance they get.

Something else to think about is the GREAT Small Freezer Shortage of 2020.  The wife and I had planned to get a small 3.5 to 3.8 small freezer for the apartment with our meager income tax refund but since the WHRS (WooHan Respritory Syndrome) pandemic, you can't find one for love or money.  Home Depot and Lowes say they have them online (list in store purchase only) but no joy at any of the local Home Depot's or Lowes I have checked.  Sears says they have one but delivery is not until June 16th.  Strange what things you run short of during a pandemic  .

kyoto kid

...yeah so many just see the gimmick and don't look at things like sheet size, ply thickness, and number, they just see "1 roll = 4 rolls" and grab it off the shelves.  This goes for paper towels as well. 

As to delivery dates some sound almost like they may be after the fact but they'll still sell it to you at a premium price now.

Yeah, being one of those older folks without a car who has to carry my groceries home by hand, I'll stick to my weekly early Thursday morning market trips at the Safeway down the street

At least I have enough TP to make it until June when hopefully the situation finally calms down (though California and Michigan already extended their shelter in place orders until may 15th).

Galaxy

Barefoot Upto My Soul

Well, looks like I am running out of toilet paper soon. Not quite ready to open the package of sandpaper that attaches to the electric sander just yet. Stores should hopefully be open on Easter Monday or Easter Tuesday. Easter Wednesday the latest.

ArtAngel

LeatherGryphon said:

We (my partner and I) also saw Phantom of the Opera twice, once in London at "Her Majesty's Theater".  In that small old theater, the fog from the boat scene rolled off the stage and filled the front of the orchestra seats area where we sat in shoulder deep fog. Cool!   The second time was in Washington DC a couple of years later at the Kennedy Center where we both dressed up in costumes appropriate to the masquerade scene.  We also saw Cats twice.  First time in NYC while on a business trip to a company in New Jersey, I'd taken my other half with me for the 3 or 4 day job.  The project was very successful and the client was very happy.  My company called back before we started home to Washington, DC and since it was my birthday, told me to go into NYC, get a hotel and take in a show, on them.  Cool!   So, we stayed at the Marriott in Times Square.   And saw Cats and did other things in the city.  Second time to see Cats was in Washington, DC at "The National Theater"  on Pennsylvania Ave near the White House.  My brother and his family (wife and two kids (about 10 and 8) were in town visiting.  So, partner and I rented a limousine for the evening and took them to the theater and fine dinner afterwards, in style.  It was a major treat for us too.  Also since the president of our small motorcycle club was a big deal at the theater, the kids were invited backstage after the show.   When they came back they were very excited about having seen the huge boot prop. Way cool, but now as adults they don't remember it.  The only other major Broadway type show that I've seen was Chicago, again at the National Theater in Washington, DC.  The president of our small motorcycle club got tickets for the entire club (about 8 of the dozen or so members attended) for a performance.  We sat in box seats immediately above the left front of the stage.  Could have almost reached out and touched the actors.  

Ooh, ooh, wait..., I just remembered, (damn ancient brain) my partner and I also saw La Cage Aux Folles (tr: Birds of a Feather).  But not with Gene Barry.  We also saw Les Misérables.  Both were at the Eisenhower Theater in the Kennedy Center in Washington,DC, back in the late '80s or early '90s.

Sigh, ancient brain is very slow..., we also saw The Mikado at the Kennedy Center.  (Yeah, I know, it's an opera but I'm a Gilbert & Sullivan fan and wanted to mention it.  Besides, The Mikado is almost as entertaining as a Broadway type show. ) I think I'm done now.  I've also seen various other operas over the years in various places but that's a story for another time, hopefully before my brain turns entirely to mush.

How cool! I have had many partners, officially married five of them, and lived common law with two others.I kept the best for last. And although I convinced him to order Cats (the newest release movie) he's a rock n roll guy to the core. It was actually a girlfriend of mine and two males I never married that got me into live theatre. So the world churns.

 

kyoto kid said:

...saw it at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in New York back in 1972 with the original cast.

..also (ironically) saw the 1972 revival of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum during that same trip. 

Wow. I am googling that one. Never heard of it . . . aw-w-w-w a british comedy. I love british comedy's. In Canada we were fortunate enough to get Some Motherers do 'Av "em and Fawlty Towers. I own ever Mr. Bean Movie ever made and most others if they have a british actor or actress in it. 

 

Barefoot Upto My Soul said:

Well, looks like I am running out of toilet paper soon. Not quite ready to open the package of sandpaper that attaches to the electric sander just yet. Stores should hopefully be open on Easter Monday or Easter Tuesday. Easter Wednesday the latest.

Never owned a bidet, never saw any sense in having one. But fools do err.

Diomede

Free toilet paper!

See   https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/398826/more-toilet-paper#latest

I seem to be getting up earlier and earlier in the morning.  Did a quick prop.

LeatherGryphon

McGyver said:

SlimerJSpud said:

Taoz said:

 

SlimerJSpud said:

"My doctor told me to stay away from alcohol. I told my doctor to stay away from me!" -- Rodney Dangerfield

The doctor's name was Al Cohol.

 

One article I read about the Great TP Shortage of 2020 is that it's a supply chain problem. Office buildings, hotels, and restaurants mostly use the commercial/industrial grade 1-ply (garbage) TP. At home, people mostly use fancy 2-ply name brands. When people stopped speding 40 hrs/week in their offices and factories, pooping in the office rest rooms, the whole supply chain was unbalanced. Hoarding is only part of the problem. The rest is caused by a sudden drop in demand for the industrial grades, and a spike in demand for the home grades.

I didn't read an article about that, but I was independently wondering about the fancy vs prison grade toilet paper supply chain disruption... one article I did read was about someone in the toilet paper industry saying they had no intention to up the supply of consumer grade toilet paper because they didn't want there to be a sudden drop in demand once the quarantine is over because lots of people will have leftover hoarded supplies... but that struck me as a big Eff-You to people who didn't horde, live on tight budgets who can't really stock up, people who have to carry groceries home because they can't afford a car or delivery, the elderly who can't drive around to 80 different stores, searching to find one damn package, and just all consumers in general... I hope more people buy bidets or Sponge-On-A-Sticks and even after the demand goes down the TP industry ends up having screwed themselves by doing that... unlikely, but it would be fitting... I've had it in for the TP industry ever since they all start loosely rolling the paper and touting it as "UltraSuperFantasticMagicalMega Rolls - 12 rolls = 752 regular rolls"  

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/08/the-dirty-little-secrets-of-toilet-paper/index.htm

I'm imagining that by the time the quarantines are over, a lot of small suburban waste treatment plants will be having troubles due to higher volume than they were designed for, from those who normally work away from home but are now stuck at home... same goes with septic systems, there will probably be a huge demand on the smaller companies that do home pumping as opposed to the big ones which do industrial contracts.

There are going to be so many interesting and stupid changes brought about this pandemic... besides the obvious ones which are obviously not so obvious to those it should be most obvious to.

So, basically, with more bidets you're hoping the TP industry goes down the toilet.  

kyoto kid

...that one left me flush with laughter..

Barefoot Upto My Soul

A bidet huh? Sounds Austalian. Bidet mate! I don't think my landlord will install a bidet in my apartment anytime in the foreseeable lifetime. Looks like I'll have to take a regular shower or place a towel on the side of the bathtub to sit over when TMI already.

WendyLuvsCatz

well I just learnt my brother has had a stroke and is in hospital 

thanks to Covid19 I cannot even go visit him and his partner is not sure if she can either

I am very scared right now