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Windstorms? England was hit by an earthquake yesterday, but nobody hears us complaining.
That happened before the storm.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking there's been some sucky changes at Daz recently. It's like they're fixing what wasn't broke in quite a few areas, and 'sales' is just one of them. I had to wonder if they were doing some kind of re-formatting of their entire business model from the way various sections are becoming different. Like the Product Library now doesn't have the order numbers on there anymore so you actually have to go to the Orders page, and the sales banners advertising only one main thing instead of several to look thru (which I really enjoyed doing), plus the sale on the Holt bundles was wayyy too short IMO and by the time I got to it, the deals were over less than 2 weeks out! I was pretty bummed by that one since I wasn't taking anymore time than usual to get to looking at it. And there's been numerous other changes here and there that I've noticed in my normal daily use of their site and altogether it = less $$ for them.
It's like it's so not fun anymore and that was one of the greatest things about Daz over any of the other stores. They *had a fun site and now, even though there's nothing I need, they're not making me want anything either.
Whoever is redesigning the way Daz operates would probably benefit from some sort of business psychology course in order to maximize people's spending cause I can say from my own experience that Daz is finally saving me some $$ instead of helping me spend it. …
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The product page information may be coming back, based on this. And there were additional banners up until the start of this sale, now that there is one "PA Sale" every day and they don't carry over from one day to the next, there wouldn't be any reason to have multiple banners pointing to the same page. If they are still only showing the most recent sale banner after the PA sale, then I would be worried.
I am wondering now if they were just... short on PAs able to get products done in time? With everything going on in the world, not just Salt Lake City, I'm wondering if that's why there seem to be fewer products being released at this time compared to the same time last year...
If that were the case, I would expect them to just spread them out, so there were fewer each day, but still something new each day. We will probably never be told what is really driving the sale offerings.
If that were the case they could have spaced the releases out more - and there certainly hasn't been any great sign of a slowdown in releases.
DAZ had been trying to change their business model for years. First they were going to do virtual avatars with Gizmoz and more recently they tried getting into game development with Morph 3D. And if you're saying "What are those?", well... that kind of says it all. Now they're trying to get all of the major 3D software systems to be able to use DAZ figures... something that, ironically, they had to a great extent back in the days of V4.
An "As far as I know" and "may take some time" really don't solve all the problems that they've caused in the here and now, and there have been hundreds of things that DAZ was "going to do" over the years that still haven't happened. Until we get a definitive "Yes, we're going to fix it", it's far from a done deal, and there's still been no explanation as to why they can't just simply roll back to what was working.
I wouldn't take it that those buying products directly out of the DAZ 3D store are using them exclusively for rendering stills. They didn't up their daily offering of new products based on an increase of sales to folks that only render stills after all.
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We'll find out soon - Daz Soon?
The sales page will catch up soon I guess, but right now today is like a new game - Put things in your cart and 'Guess the Sale!'...
I still can't respond. I've tried just using mods email in a new one and it doesn't work.
But you know what, I was going to send Daz some feedback, but I think Ill just use up my credit and call it a day.
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This PA sale/festival is looking worst with each passing day.
Overpriced and inflated new daz bundle releases. Bad discount on catalogue items for PA.
I don't care if last year was as bad. Bad is bad. Since march i think there was only one day were featured artist discount started at 30%, then the base was always at least 40% being 50% without any conditions most of the time with usually added benefits beyond that and with occasional stacking flash sales. The best we got this month was the 60% during a pause in releases, but 60% is something we also get in flash sale anytime, and can be stacked with other things, this was a plain 60% with nothing else, so not that good either.
Without counting the $1.99/$2.99 PC for a day, the PC+ sale offered way better discount on PA items, but this is supose to be THE PA sale/festival. Beyond a good discount for those that buy on release date, this sale offers nothing else.
Agreed, Wolfwood. I picked up a couple things yesterday because I needed them, but it still stung. I think the smallest discount I've accepted prior to that during the PA Sale was 65%, which is still mediocre but they were items I needed in the immediate future. Best we've had so far was the build your own flash sale coupon for 5@70% off from a limited selection (still 12 pages of my wishlist lol), which was nice but I would have bought a lot more if it had been more than one use -- I was able to easily assemble five carts of products and would have bought ALL of them, but instead I only purchased the one and will wait for even deeper discounts on other things.
Plus there was the whole fiasco of people not realizing it was going to be for one day only and sitting on their carts, because Daz point-blank refuses to tell us durations of coupons or sales in order to generate artificial urgency (it's certainly not a "we can't do/code that" issue, elsewheRe is always up front about how long things will last). Sure, you could make an educated guess because all the other PA stuff has been for one day... except when it hasn't been.
I actually like quite a few of the Twosret 8 items but at $82+ for the Pharaoh Living bundle and no banner, I'll pass. In a few months it will go for much cheaper and I'll get it then. Daz only likes to give out banners as rewards, when they should also be giving them out as incentives. They'd get a lot more people buying bundles if they offered discounts to encourage those who buy them now and again but not every single week. Plus another yet another day where discounts require multiple bundle buys and there's another DNRO buy-in for the coupon codes. There are easily three things I would like to have (I have been searching for a raw silk shader for what feels like forever), but I will likely not buy them today just on principle.
This sale hasn't been about PAs, it's been all about Daz and the prices are rapidly becoming ridiculous, especially for hobbyists who don't need the cost of a commercial license bundled into every product. It's like Daz is actively trying to get people to not spend money. At this point I'm waiting for the PC+ Sale and groaning inwardly as I know this one will probably be "extended" to mid-October.
The Egyptian chariot and horse armour looked good... just wish there were more actual horse poses with it. First thing I've see that looked potentially useful. Does this mean the sale is looking up? ;-P
I was pretty bored with the PA sale until today. Todays is the best deals in while, well a few months anyway seems like... I love the new bundles. Daz sales are like a puzzle, unfortunately. Which, does get pretty annoying and time wasting to figure out the sale stacker combo or a big bummer if not getting the banners. But with the purple banner and both bundles and addons... many things stack to 70 even 80% off today, especially 'still new releases', 'featured artists' (which has a lot of great ones currently) and fast grabs. Plus operating on 30% off gift card from past two days offer (typically tends to be a clue that a big set is coming like we got today).
A blowout day here, thanks daz! Picked up both bundles and all the addons but two. Great time to grab the UltraScenery sets too.
NGL I was kind of disappointed by the horse bit. Not because we don't need more horse stuff, but because new content for Horse 2 means they probably aren't planning on a new version anytime soon. The one we currently have is going on eight years old, even if we do have Iray add-ons now.
Oh, well. At least it looks better than the cat. :P
Right on about the Daz cat! I'll tell you who has a really nice cat (and dog) and everybody knows it ... Hivewire does! I hate their site but their animal models are absolutely Stellar! Daz should hire whoever's doing those models for a new animal line up, IMO, if that were really possible. Daz's new cat lacks realism, and it's lines are really 'soft' looking to me and same goes for a lot of new, detail-less models lately - like clothing. It's like some vendors on and including Daz are just cranking as many out as possible but some of the new stuff doesn't have the level of detail as some stuff for the V4/M4 line and that's pretty crappy at some of the prices they charge. I have to wonder if anyone in charge cares what their customers think as long as people are buying.
The horse looks better if you have Linday's morph :)
There is something "off" about the Hivewire house cat. I've had cats all my life and there is so much to fix. It does of course bend better than the old Daz housecat, but at least the Daz cat had a more realistic shape. :) I do agree about clothing lately. Most of it is due to dforce. There is only so many details one can add and then you have the cloth that's infinitely thin - makes it look like it's made of paper ;).
Seems I was too paranoid and the old sales page is back in its familiar layout.
PA sale remains very unspectacular.
Which is actually good at the moment.
Used some of the few 60% to 70% discount actions and the RDNA Items for a dollar sale, assuming those were the best we'd get, and have reached my monthly financial limit already.
And am now waiting for the October Platinum Club sale.
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I am happy. I just bought 6 Interactive Licenses to 6 urban sets of 3 different PAs that are normally $50 each for $10 each which according to the DAZ Deals browser plugin is the cheapest they've been on offer in the DAZ Store ever. Taken together they are a pretty varied set of modern urban architecture styles.
Actually, those people used to work for DAZ and DID do many of the models that are sold here, but they left as part of the exodus that occured when Hivewire started up. There was... very briefly, like maybe a week... period where there seemed to be a deal for DAZ to sell some of the Hivewire products, but then something happened and the next thing anyone knew, Renderosity was doing it instead.
Given the Egyptian theme of Twosret, it's actually surprising and disappointing that there wasn't a new cat-related product.
Today they don't even have a page featuring new releases. There *are* new releases. And if you put some mininum number of them into your cart, there's a discount. But that isn't actually said anywhere in print.
Peculiar way to run a sale. Something is quite thoroughly messed up somewhere in the pipeline.
They 'left' long before Hivewire started and Chris was one of the founders of Daz, and what happened between Daz and Hivewire is something I doubt very much I'm allowed to say here.