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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    edited March 2022

    NotAnArtist said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    NotAnArtist said:

    I guess a Daz+ member no longer receives an extra 30% off DO items when they're on sale(?)
    The March Grab Bag $3.99 sale is sticking at $3.99 for DO items...

    In general they still get the extra 30% off even on sale DO items. Howver, it is not available in some fixed low priced sales such as Grab Bag because the items are already so heavily discounted

    I appreciate the response!
    The previous time I tried that sale, March 8, I was getting 88% off of DO items in a $4.99 Grab Bag.
    Prices came out to just over a dollar. But those were much older products, so yeah, what you say makes sense.

    The general rule of thumb is that this store has an astonishing number of problems and erratic pricing issues that don't get caught before they put the new day promotion up at Midnight DAZ/Mountain Time.  To the point that quite a few folks wait up or get up early to check the pages specifically because of this, as the so-called "glitch sales" that can result can sometimes be quite spectacular, and many of them are never corrected or stay up for a full day.  As a result, the way that prices add up here is extremely inconsistant, with the odds sometimes being in DAZ's favor and sometimes in the consumers'.  Don't try too hard to make sense of it.  Don't expect any kind of consistency. The best you can do is to just keep your eyes open and always do the math yourself before committing your $$$

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  • NotAnArtistNotAnArtist Posts: 390
    edited March 2022
    The general rule of thumb is that this store has an astonishing number of problems and erratic pricing issues that don't get caught before they put the new day promotion up at Midnight DAZ/Mountain Time.  To the point that quite a few folks wait up or get up early to check the pages specifically because of this, as the so-called "glitch sales" that can result can sometimes be quite spectacular, and many of them are never corrected or stay up for a full day.  As a result, the way that prices add up here is extremely inconsistant, with the odds sometimes being in DAZ's favor and sometimes in the consumers'.  Don't try too hard to make sense of it.  Don't expect any kind of consistency. The best you can do is to just keep your eyes open and always do the math yourself before committing your $$$

     

    Your comments, Cybersox, are true I suppose, and therefore disturbing. Change is inevitable and there can be good reasons for it, but if the corporation is becoming incompetent in a way... well maybe I'll just sit back and try to enjoy the clown show.

    I feel fortunate to have been here building my resources in the hobby years ago. It was easy to do so because Daz was more reliable.

    It's just so bizarre what has happened. For me it began around last July. The first thing I noticed was that I suddenly had no interest in the new items they presented. I went weeks at a time without spending a penny.

    Then the NFT junk, etc etc. I thought I was just out of touch with what younger hobbyists go for. But now it feels more like Daz has shifted their allegiances... They've gone off path. It's certainly not me that's changed! I'm too old.

    By the way, I'm thankful to you folks and the knowledge you share. It's not always uplifting, but always offering good insights. (Well, much of my lack of 'uplift', to be honest, is my own foul mood these days) ;)

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  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,176
     

    It's just so bizarre what has happened. For me it began around last July. The first thing I noticed was that I suddenly had no interest in the new items they presented. I went weeks at a time without spending a penny.

    Then the NFT junk, etc etc. I thought I was just out of touch with what younger hobbyists go for. But now it feels more like Daz has shifted their allegiances... They've gone off path. It's certainly not me that's changed! I'm too old.

     

    This is my experience as well - and last July sounds about right. It's a combination of items I have no interest in and items that just don't make sense when you look at them. A beautiful house, properly set up, with bedroom and full bath - and a kitchen with no recognizeable refrigerator. Loft apartments with a second level sleeping platform - with no apparent storage for bedding or clothes, or access by ladder or tight spiral staircase. Or only one door, so the main entry is through the bath OR the $4k+ per month apartment shares the bathroom at the end of the hall.

  • arks0ngarks0ng Posts: 273

    This is probably DAZ sales conditioning of old speaking, but I'm finding it really hard to get excited about "up to 55% off!!!" Especially when there's a 4-new-item buy in?? Like, several times a month you could get that price without having to buy anything else at all - assumedly it's only a 'sale' because it's happening during MM/MS

    The issue being that, when there is a new release I like, I can't really justify buying it yet. Because without any good reason to (since I'd have to buy another 3 to get 55% off a product that DazDeals shows regularly drops lower than that), I'm just going to wishlist and then see if there's a better deal next time, or next time, or next time until... oh look it's gone now. Guess I'll forget about it until it shows up in its own sale a year or so later. 

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    Ugh it's fading for me too. Only 5 items I would be interested in today (it was 7 yesterday), so no $2.99 offer, so no buy.

    Oh well window shopping can be fun too.

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    With all this stuff happening or not happening in the store, it's just that I, as a customer, don't feel appreciated. My gerneral feeling is more like: They toss some bones, and expect the dog (customer) to hunt after it, no matter how old and tasteless. Often not worth the hunt.

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,046
    edited March 2022

    I had sort of found 10 items yesterday, but woke up in the UK to find the clocks must have changed over the pond, as everything jumped an hour and the prices had rolled over. So an emptied cart. In previous years I think I've been forewarned by a comment on the forum, but this year didn't see anything. No biggie, for me.

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  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,982

    James_H said:

    I had sort of found 10 items yesterday, but woke up in the UK to find the clocks must have changed over the pond, as everything jumped an hour and the prices had rolled over. So an emptied cart. In previous years I think I've been forewarned by a comment on the forum, but this year didn't see anything. No biggie, for me.

    Yeah the clocks went ahead an hour yesterday in the States. I hate it and wish we'd stop doing daylight savings. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212

    namffuak said:

     

    It's just so bizarre what has happened. For me it began around last July. The first thing I noticed was that I suddenly had no interest in the new items they presented. I went weeks at a time without spending a penny.

    Then the NFT junk, etc etc. I thought I was just out of touch with what younger hobbyists go for. But now it feels more like Daz has shifted their allegiances... They've gone off path. It's certainly not me that's changed! I'm too old.

     

    This is my experience as well - and last July sounds about right. It's a combination of items I have no interest in and items that just don't make sense when you look at them. A beautiful house, properly set up, with bedroom and full bath - and a kitchen with no recognizeable refrigerator. Loft apartments with a second level sleeping platform - with no apparent storage for bedding or clothes, or access by ladder or tight spiral staircase. Or only one door, so the main entry is through the bath OR the $4k+ per month apartment shares the bathroom at the end of the hall.

    ...for myself it's too much ultra modern architecture, with bathrooms as large as the main room of my studio flat. 

    Save for Stonemason's Urban future sets which work well for my Cyber future stuff, most of my writings take place in Europe where there are also a lot of older buildings.

    ...and speaking of to bathrooms, I wonder why they always put the tub by a big window open to the world and sometimes even have a skylight over it? 

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905

    Kharma said:

    This is probably the worst March Madness I have seen since I started in 2005!  I haven't spent any cash here since July 19/21  and that was only 19.00, have not even  used my PC+ coupons,  the price increases and less than desirable bundles have cured me of spending here and I spend my money elsewhere.  When I signed up for PC+ it was said that introductory discounts would be 30%, why am I only seeing 20% now?  That;s not what I agreed to when I purchased PC+, Daz changes the policy whenever they feel like it??  I won't be renewing in September when it expires unless they are giving it away free.  The only thing I come here for now is to occasionally read the forums and pick up the weekly/monthly freebie.  I was hoping MM would be better...NOT!!  There is also the lack of many vendors leaving Daz and it makes me wonder why?  It's sad....

    This is back from page 3 or 4 btw. (And that shows you how Daz is losing folks, I don't even bother with the forums much anymore in Commons.)   Kharma raised an excellent concern.

  • NotAnArtistNotAnArtist Posts: 390

    NotAnArtist said: stuff...

    PS-
    Just want to note that the Grab Bag today has several nice items, at least from my perspective. I want to mention two:

    *Ladybug by Sylvan is so well done, and so potentially useful in a variety of image ideas, that I don't know why I haven't noticed it before.

    *Dancing Animations for G8 would be hilarious if applied to inappropriate characters! If my Iray & Filament hopes are dead, then it might at least be fun to create loony toons in 3DL or Blender :)

    Anyway, it's nice seeing things that generate hope now and then, and I found some today. Lots of good PC+, I mean, Daz+ sales here, too.
    Cheers!

     

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    Yeah but did anyone manage 10? 5 max for me, so a no $2.99, so no buy day again.

    Perhaps Mad march has morphed into a Mad catchup days, or pehaps those of us waiting will miss out.

    I'm starting not to care. Looks like I won't be renewing my PC+ again either. Such a shame. I have PC+ for Mad March and the PC sale in October. Isn't the whole DAZ pricing strategy aimed at tempting people in? Perhaps as mentioned before it's now aimed at the new discord users who won't konw about $1.99-$2.99.

     

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    Yeah but did anyone manage 10? 5 max for me, so a no $2.99, so no buy day again.

    My maximum was 2 one day. On the other hand it seems that I usually already own 50% of the products that appear in the grab bag sale, so not finding much to buy is to be expected...

    And there's always the PC+/DAZ+ sale looming on the horizon...

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    It might backfire on me, but at this point, I'm holding out for the catchup sale.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150
    y3kman said:

    I will never understand how DAZ marketing works. Some of the items sold as $4.99 a few days ago are now back as $3.99 or $2.99. This is just asking for refunds from customers and more work for the sales department.

    They no longer offer refunds on an item that goes down in price. There is a faq item on that dated 16 Feb 2022
  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    @maikdecker That's disapointing, so $3.99 each then. Yeah PC+ hopefully will be more useful. I had a couple of 10 days, but now like @Torquinox I think I'll be stuck in catchup mode only. Could be a slipup if there isn't one. :O

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    I can't find much either, all the good things I've already bought. It's so weird really, why are we being punished for buying things earlier and at higher prices? I'll never understand that. 

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,070

    Grabbed Celani's HD to go with Celani herself from a few days ago. She's wonderful.

    Few more things I'd garb for 2.99 if there's a catch-up. If not, no biggie.

    I generally don't buy newly released items, but Aerys looks really good!

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    edited March 2022
    tsroemi said:

    I can't find much either, all the good things I've already bought. It's so weird really, why are we being punished for buying things earlier and at higher prices? I'll never understand that. 

    I hear what you're saying. For me, I mostly consider the items I bought earlier, before the sale, as paying for "R&D."

    My real problem with the current system is the $3.99 price really cuts my buying power. I'm also not trying to find 10 items to get the price lowered to $2.99.

    Daz has left SO much money on the table here. When the sale was $1.99 I loaded up & picked up stuff I barely even want since I would be using it for scene filler. They took a sale where I was spending tons into where I have barely spent any money.
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  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2022

    70% discount and the product is still over SEVEN DOLLARS.  Sorry, I'm not paying SEVEN DOLLARS for a model of fake hair.  Costs of food and gas are through the roof and lots of us haven't worked in TWO YEARS due to COVID, and now there's a war with THREE MILLION REFUGEES that need financial support.  On top of all that many of us are paying THIRTY PERCENT MORE because of currency exchange rates and payment transaction fees.  I can't afford to feed my dog.  Half of the MARCH MADNESS sale is OVER and I've bought almost NOTHING.  I don't even bother reading all that marketing text, and I completely skip even browsing through 90% of what's on sale. 

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212

    daveso said:

    y3kman said:

    I will never understand how DAZ marketing works. Some of the items sold as $4.99 a few days ago are now back as $3.99 or $2.99. This is just asking for refunds from customers and more work for the sales department.

    They no longer offer refunds on an item that goes down in price. There is a faq item on that dated 16 Feb 2022

    ...that's an interesting change of policy. 

    Since the first two days, have made no purchases or downloads save for a Daz+ freebie 

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2022

    AllenArt said:

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

    You'd just leave the bread in the store and what?  Serve your children dirt for dinner?  People complain about the prices in stores ALL THE TIME - that's why so many business go bankrupt.  In Canada, where I live, ALL the Target Stores went bankrupt.  All of them.

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532

    difference is nobody needs DAZ content to live wink

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2022

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    difference is nobody needs DAZ content to live wink

    DAZ needs DAZ content to live. indecision 

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    AllenArt said:

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

     

    Exactly. You don't buy. Neither do I. Fewer and fewer items. So how does that help DAZ or the PA or anyone? If they price us (those who can't afford) out of the market, how many will remain willing to pay high prices? My guess is that another company would start selling at prices attractive to those who no longer buy from DAZ and the PAs would follow the customers.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited March 2022

    Fauvist said:

    AllenArt said:

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

    You'd just leave the bread in the store and what?  Serve your children dirt for dinner?  People complain about the prices in stores ALL THE TIME - that's why so many business go bankrupt.  In Canada, where I live, ALL the Target Stores went bankrupt.  All of them.

     

    ...they're closing some down here in the States as well. Pity as they actually have decent prices and variety.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    If they made the grab bag a straight $2,99 I would have spent a lot more money. There was one day I just barely squeaked in 10 items, but every other day I can only find 5-7 items so I don’t buy anything at all. If they don’t do a catch up sale, they’ll be missing out on a lot money. I really don’t understand all these new crazy policies and hope everyone goes into detail about this on the questionnaire on the orange banner.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    daveso said:

    y3kman said:

    I will never understand how DAZ marketing works. Some of the items sold as $4.99 a few days ago are now back as $3.99 or $2.99. This is just asking for refunds from customers and more work for the sales department.

    They no longer offer refunds on an item that goes down in price. There is a faq item on that dated 16 Feb 2022

    Yes, I had a big problem with that. Another reason I’m buying a lot less. I’m not going to risk buying something today when it can go drastically down in price the next day. DAZ is just shooting themselves in the foot with all these new changes. 

  • ecks201ecks201 Posts: 446
    edited March 2022

    I've got an orange bar pop-up asking me to take part in a survey.
    Has everyone recived it? Because I know last time there were a lot of long standing members who didn't recieve it, where relative newbies like me did.

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