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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    The one smart marketing move DAZ made today was the $25 freebies. I’m betting most people went a little over the $25 and paid the difference. I know I purchased 4 items that I never would have purchased normally but ended up paying 97 cents which, of course, is very little but 97 cents more than I ever would have paid for that older content and that adds up when many do the same. So I hope they keep up with that strategy which is win/win, 

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720
    edited March 2022

    Wonderland said:

    daveso said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    marble said:

    namffuak said:

    daveso said:

    y3kman said:

    I will never understand how DAZ marketing works. Some of the items sold as $4.99 a few days ago are now back as $3.99 or $2.99. This is just asking for refunds from customers and more work for the sales department.

    They no longer offer refunds on an item that goes down in price. There is a faq item on that dated 16 Feb 2022

    Link please - I'm not seeing this.

     

    I was about to ask for the link too. I'm not sure what "goes down in price" means. Is that anything that has a sale (discount) price? If so, then that's all I ever buy so refunds are a thing of the past for me. Maybe the DAZ store will soon be a thing f the past too.

    I think they are referring to this:

     https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4434959725581-What-is-the-Policy-for-Sales-Events-and-Prices-

    What is the Policy for Sales Events and Prices?

    February 16, 2022 14:41

    Sales events on the daz3d.com website and their prices are available for a limited time. These special prices and offers are only valid during the sales event. Sale prices cannot be applied retroactively to items purchased before the sale, or to purchases made after the sales event ends.

     

    Note: Sales events are based on the Mountain Time Zone.

    Plus the fine print of nearly all sales these days contains the following wording:

    Cannot be used to discount items already owned. 

    that is the one 

    It means if you buy a grab bag item for $4.99 and it goes down to $2.99 the next day you’re not supposed to get a refund. Or if something has an intro price of 20% off yesterday and is now 30% off today, no refund. Which is why I’m barely buying anything anymore. With this new policy I’m probably never going to buy anything over $2.99 unless I really need it. 

    And what if it doesn't work, or isn't what you expected? Presumably you can get a refund?

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  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2022

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Fauvist said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Fauvist said:

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    daveso said:

    would you belive i cannot find 2 items i want out of that free stuff?  

    Ouch! Can't you even pick up a couple of items "Just in case they are useful in the future"? I can usually fool my brain with that old line.

    Spending "just" a couple of dollars a day will end up costing you OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS a year.  That's $5000 in 5 years.  In 5 years the products you buy now are going to look like the products from 5 years ago look today.  

    365 * $2 = $730, unless your couples are bigamous.

    That's $922 Canadian dollars, plus 365 credit card and PayPal transaction fees.  It's over $1000 for me and every other Canadian who shops here. Generally speaking, the US does more trade with Canada than with all the countries in Europe combined.

    OK, but if you say dollars on a US site it is liely to be read as US dollars - there is no implicit equivalence between CAD and USD just because they are both called "dollars", anymore than there is between USD and GBP or EUR.

     Excuse me, but the minimum wage in New York is $15 an hour and in Toronto Canada it is $15 an hour.  Netflix basic service in the US is 9.99 US dollars and Netflix basic service in Canada is 9.99 Canadian dollars.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027
    edited March 2022

    AndrewJJP said:

    Wonderland said:

    daveso said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    marble said:

    namffuak said:

    daveso said:

    y3kman said:

    I will never understand how DAZ marketing works. Some of the items sold as $4.99 a few days ago are now back as $3.99 or $2.99. This is just asking for refunds from customers and more work for the sales department.

    They no longer offer refunds on an item that goes down in price. There is a faq item on that dated 16 Feb 2022

    Link please - I'm not seeing this.

     

    I was about to ask for the link too. I'm not sure what "goes down in price" means. Is that anything that has a sale (discount) price? If so, then that's all I ever buy so refunds are a thing of the past for me. Maybe the DAZ store will soon be a thing f the past too.

    I think they are referring to this:

     https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4434959725581-What-is-the-Policy-for-Sales-Events-and-Prices-

    What is the Policy for Sales Events and Prices?

    February 16, 2022 14:41

    Sales events on the daz3d.com website and their prices are available for a limited time. These special prices and offers are only valid during the sales event. Sale prices cannot be applied retroactively to items purchased before the sale, or to purchases made after the sales event ends.

     

    Note: Sales events are based on the Mountain Time Zone.

    Plus the fine print of nearly all sales these days contains the following wording:

    Cannot be used to discount items already owned. 

    that is the one 

    It means if you buy a grab bag item for $4.99 and it goes down to $2.99 the next day you’re not supposed to get a refund. Or if something has an intro price of 20% off yesterday and is now 30% off today, no refund. Which is why I’m barely buying anything anymore. With this new policy I’m probably never going to buy anything over $2.99 unless I really need it. 

    And what if it doesn't work, or isn't what you expected? Presumably you can get a refund?

    Yes you can return the product for a full refund but they are no longer refunding the price difference. The biggest issue for this is when they start the grab bag at $4,99 or 20% off new items and the next day change the price so those exact same items go down to $2.99 or 30% off for new items. The fluctuating prices make it a mess. 

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  • Well, finally fell for that Leprechaun bundle in favor of getting only 4 of the items. Added some store credit using the new DAZ+ releases I wanted anyhow for minimum buyin to get that 24%. And then picked the bundle together with a $0,83 product from the Mad Artist store to bring the bundle down to $52,12. Still a hefty price but maybe DAZ welcomes me back to that coupon world as a little thank you ;-) Had to skip those Grab Bag items I had in cart though. Do hope for a catch-up with the same 10+/$2,99 pricing to grab the ones which did not go for $1,99 before. We'll see.

  • arks0ngarks0ng Posts: 273

    Fauvist said:

    Spending "just" a couple of dollars a day will end up costing you OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS a year.  That's $5000 in 5 years.  In 5 years the products you buy now are going to look like the products from 5 years ago look today.  

    Good lord, Fauvist, chill a bit. They're free :D

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    TODAY'S CATCHUP SALE.

    I had 19 items that I didn't buy during the last week as I couldn't get to 10 @ $2.99 each on a particular day.

    I would have bought at least 10 today at $2.99 maybe all 19, instead at $3.49 I bought 4.

    I would have bought many, many more @$1.99 every day. The vast majority of these items were not on my wishlist.

    Whilst Daz continues to experiment with pricing, money is being left on the table.

     

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,070
    edited March 2022

    Hrmph.

    I was fully bracing myself for the possibility of a switch-up like this, so... can't say I'm surprised.

    Do I like it? Not at all.

    Not sure yet what I'm going to do about the items I've been saving for the catch-up. I already have everything I really want, so.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532

    I did buy 2 HD morphs I passed over before, I might have bought 10 at 2.99 but maybe not

  • no noseno nose Posts: 310

    Why do related and bag have a way to view all its items, but key and bonus dont?

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027
    edited March 2022

    I actually have a lot of $2.99 items in my cart right now, with one of the cheapie St. Patrick’s day things which I’m now forced to buy to get it down to $2,99. I still have to cull some, but I’ll be really pissed off if these ever go to $1.99 especially during the next 30 days! I never would purchase these for more than $2.99 though but I can find a use for them assuming tech support ever gets back to me about my issues using DS and constant crashing! 

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  • Finally bought a couple things yesterday. Zelara, which I'd been debating about for a while and being in the $4* sale decided me; plus an older wishlist item in the flash sale & my Daz+ code actually worked on the cart. 

    With today's catchup, I was hoping to get Topsy for $4 but it's full price. I could've sworn Topsy was in the Grab Bag one day. Maybe it was a different promo - anyone know?

    But I don't do the overly complex promos - that are no different from the deals I've been seeing all year - at all. It's to the point, where I barely look at the Newly Mad.  Just jump down to the $3-$5 Grab Bag & then check my wishlist and any flash sale.

  • ColinFrenchColinFrench Posts: 648

    daveso said:

    would you belive i cannot find 2 items i want out of that free stuff?  

    I can believe it, I'm in the same boat.

    There were a couple of items I might have been interested in but over the years Daz has raised their price so they're now over the $25 limit. Oh well, skipped those. Finally picked up a couple of things I'll probably never use just because they're free.

    For an offer that should have been exciting, it actually just highlighted my disappointment with Daz. Probably not what the marketing folks had in mind.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150
    edited March 2022

    yeah - again.

    Bought a few grab bag items over the days at $3.99. Today 3.49, and with a simple purchase, 2.99. Right now, with combo DAZ+ Coupon and the discount for buying a newly mad ... $2.08 each for fast grab items I have in my cart, 5 HD morphs. If I buy more they will go up though as the DAZ+ coupon spreads over all of them. 

    I'm buying Ultrascenery XT from Howie Farkes for sure, a bit more expensive than a lot of newly released items, but have been waiting for it and have the price down to $26 from $34, which is 46% off list. My only real negative today is that I didn;t jump on the GC, but i was not planning to buy anything else, other than Ultrascenery XT if it came out. oh well on that. 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532
    edited March 2022

    I just grabbed the Bituka Gas station too, was always put off by the self promotion on everything but at that price can slap my own signage on it

     

    bloody cloudflare angry

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  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,225
    edited March 2022

    Well that buy-in was an unpleasant surprise. Used the MK Dai shirt as cheapest option plus the single Bonus Mad item I did not own already to lower the price.

    But DAZ, if you want a buy-in I simply buy less. Would probably have spent nearly my complete store credit if items would still be at $1,99. With buy-in and $2,99 I checked each item twice if really needed and removed a lot of products from cart until the final checkout.

    Phew, had my DAZ originals coupon not used. Worked nicely to remove the buy-in from the bill.

    Post edited by Rod Wise Driggo on
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,879

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I just grabbed the Bituka Gas station too, was always put off by the self promotion on everything but at that price can slap my own signage on it

     

    bloody cloudflare angry

    Just a heads up to others: The  Bituka3d Gas Station Props are also in the grab bag BUT they are all included in the Bituka3d Gas Station; so, you are better off to just buy the gas station.

  • ecks201ecks201 Posts: 446

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I just grabbed the Bituka Gas station too, was always put off by the self promotion on everything but at that price can slap my own signage on it

     

    bloody cloudflare angry

    I think there's a thread somewhere covering how to change the logos in it. Some were tricky IIRC.

  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,982

    Charlie Judge said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I just grabbed the Bituka Gas station too, was always put off by the self promotion on everything but at that price can slap my own signage on it

     

    bloody cloudflare angry

    Just a heads up to others: The  Bituka3d Gas Station Props are also in the grab bag BUT they are all included in the Bituka3d Gas Station; so, you are better off to just buy the gas station.

    Thank you so much for pointing this out! I didn't realize it was the same props in both, I thought there were different ones in the prop set. 

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,221

    The Ultrascenery Add on was an immediate buy for me.  Also picked up some 2.99 catch up items.  I liked picking up some HD morphs at a discount without having to get to 10.  

    So all in all, Daz has gotten me to be a buyer this week.  I am a sucker for leprechauns so was a buyer yesterday as well.

    Aside - anyone else looking forward to what they come up with for April 1st?  I feel like I need to do a banana costume render before this weekend is over.

     

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    With the new no-money-back-for-cheaper-prices policy, I'm really confused how to proceed. There are a couple of things on my wishlist having a good price right now, but if they turn up tomorrow for 3,49 or somesuch, I'm gonna be really mad. What do you guy do, wait or buy nevertheless?

  • Now I can make up the 10 items for the $2.99... and there isn't a single thing I can use as the buy-in.  (Although, thanks to the materials error in the listing, I almost hoped for the UltraScenery one).  A big give-away yesterday, apparently... the more often I miss out, the more I find myself shopping elsewhere. I know who still wants my money, at least. :-)

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    AllenArt said:

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

    Indeed it is not.

    I have no obligation to buy anything.

    ... Because of that, Daz needs to do everything in their power to encourage us all to buy. The majority of their customers (im guessing) do not NEED the items, merely want them at a particular time.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    tsroemi said:

    With the new no-money-back-for-cheaper-prices policy, I'm really confused how to proceed. There are a couple of things on my wishlist having a good price right now, but if they turn up tomorrow for 3,49 or somesuch, I'm gonna be really mad. What do you guy do, wait or buy nevertheless?

    knowing the risk, and no way out of it, if I want or need something and the price is reasonable at the moment, I buy it. For instance, Ultrascenery XT is 30% off, something I've wanted to buy since I saw it 1st presented. I rarely buy anything for 30% off, but this item I was going to, and with the couple of buyins, got the price 46% off, still lower discount than my set 65-70% off ... but its in my cart. It will, at some time, be way more discounted, but that's the deal, if you want it now or have the patience to wait for the cnance it becomes less expensive. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    If I buy something, the price is acceptable. I am a sufficiently brutal bargain shopper that I have never thought to request an adjustment. I agree with Sci Fi Funk. This is not the sale I was hoping for, and I did not buy anything. There will be other sales. Who knows what will happen? Meanwhile, thanks for the pot o' gold.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    I shouldn't say, but it seems likely I will be finally going for the much-wanted and comically overpriced hardware upgrades I need to get best use out of various 3D apps and tools. After that, there won't be much left for Daz stuff for the next year or so. Sad and true.

  • N00b4EverN00b4Ever Posts: 299

    I'm so disappointed with this MM that didn't use the $25 coupon even though I had few wishlisted items in that category... I know, it was a dumb move, but had limited time to do a purchase and couldn't decide, was trying to fit two items in 25 or less..

    Also, finally they brought back the catch up sale for low priced items in which I could make 10 iems to drop the price,  but hold and behold, they change the criterion, now you have to buy a new item related to Mad or Still Mad to bring the price down... and I have zero interest in any of those at their current price.

  • Very interesting thread and an interesting discussion since I've only been here for a year and only seen one March Madness last year that was rather addictive. For me, it is something rather different: at present I only render (and only for myself) but wish to be able to publish a 3D game which means that I aim to get an interactive license for anything I buy. This means any 'freebie' is not really free and I have to be very very selective, often ignoring free items if they are not worth an interactive license. Last year interactive licenses were at $5 on a regular basis so I could count on buying a lot of items and later add those licenses in around a month-two months. This March suggests that this should be seen a thing of the past which also means that in my eyes all prices just jumped from at least $5 to at least $20, ouch.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    Yes, those promo interactive license prices were gifts from the gods for those who wanted them. There were times when the ILs were less than $5! I think those came out to support the Unreal and Unity export bridges.

  • Blando CalrissianBlando Calrissian Posts: 566
    edited March 2022

    tsroemi said:

    With the new no-money-back-for-cheaper-prices policy, I'm really confused how to proceed. There are a couple of things on my wishlist having a good price right now, but if they turn up tomorrow for 3,49 or somesuch, I'm gonna be really mad. What do you guy do, wait or buy nevertheless?

    I hide all of the items I've ever bought from the catalog and sales pages, so if it's currently going for $1.99 and I bought it for $15.99, I'll never know about it. :-)

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