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  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    Another way of getting $2.99 or less on items is to look through the Mad Artist Stores.

    I picked up some G8 items sub $2.99 today, and another load of V4-G2 items circa $0.70.

    Otherwise I didn't find 10 mad items yet again so that money wasn't spent.

  • ioonrxoonioonrxoon Posts: 894

    The only G8 items I'm seeing under 2.99 are Daz+ ones, those are nothing uncommon at those prices.

    Wasn't able to find 10 items either today. Sadly core chars and hd's have disappeared; bought quite of few of those to reach 10 items, even if I didn't particularly need them.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Grrr, today's one of the rare days I think about buying a new release. But today's also the 2nd or 3rd occasion where I do not own the key item. Of course I own Kiko and her other bundle and a total of 4 items from todays key item bundle. Whoever came up with that single key item thing and that new release for three days to get a extra of bonus mad and a ton of other soso-things: Well done, if I don't qualify for a purchase there won't be a purchase.

    I think the point they are missing is that if you don't qualify, and if you don't qualify, you often don't buy becasue you think you're mising out on the deal.

    I have not qualified for a single one of those deals. My library is probably small comprared to many (about 1,500 things I think) so maybe I should just buy more. And also buy stuff evern single day to qualify for all the extra bonusses. Then I will "save money"!

    But other things annoyed me recently too, and stay with this, because it is relevant here. I am still furious with them for selling a bunch of Lindsay things on my wishlist at 65% off between the hours of 2AM and 6AM. I would have bought them had I been awake. That's a different problem of course, and I'm getting the feeling others are less worried by this than I am. Its relevance here is that those partisan sales now seem to be the only simple sales with few conditions attached. Offers at other times are either generally have strings attached or aren't very good.

    You're not alone feeling like this, those sales that are virtually unattainable for non-DAZ-timezoners make me furious every time I hear of them. And every time, I cut down my wishlist a little more.  

  • HeraHera Posts: 1,958

    So there was no mid-month catch-up sale neither last week nor this. Now I hope for a final catchup next weekend. 

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,392
    edited March 2022

    The current $8 dollar for a DO pose set flash sale has to be one of the worst deals I have seen for a while. Pose sets are reasonably cheap on the whole, so buying for 8$ represents a 50% discount, but for DAZ+ members this is just a 29% discount, which is pretty miserly even by the standards of the last few months.

    Why does DAZ limit people to just 8 of this pretty dire deal?, I would have thought they would be very happy if customers pick up 20 or 30 at this price point.

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  • NathNath Posts: 2,848

    Havos said:

    The current $8 dollar for a DO pose set flash sale has to be one of the worst deals I have seen for a while. Pose sets are reasonably cheap on the whole, so buying for 8$ represents a 50% discount, but for DAZ+ members this is just a 29% discount, which is pretty miserly even by the standards of the last few months.

    Why does DAZ limit people to just 8 of this pretty dire deal?, I would have thought they would be very happy if customers pick up 20 or 30 at this price point.

     Scarcity, whether artificial or real, creates urgency to buy - just a guess, but it's the only reason I can imagine.

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720
    edited March 2022

    tsroemi said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Grrr, today's one of the rare days I think about buying a new release. But today's also the 2nd or 3rd occasion where I do not own the key item. Of course I own Kiko and her other bundle and a total of 4 items from todays key item bundle. Whoever came up with that single key item thing and that new release for three days to get a extra of bonus mad and a ton of other soso-things: Well done, if I don't qualify for a purchase there won't be a purchase.

    I think the point they are missing is that if you don't qualify, and if you don't qualify, you often don't buy becasue you think you're mising out on the deal.

    I have not qualified for a single one of those deals. My library is probably small comprared to many (about 1,500 things I think) so maybe I should just buy more. And also buy stuff evern single day to qualify for all the extra bonusses. Then I will "save money"!

    But other things annoyed me recently too, and stay with this, because it is relevant here. I am still furious with them for selling a bunch of Lindsay things on my wishlist at 65% off between the hours of 2AM and 6AM. I would have bought them had I been awake. That's a different problem of course, and I'm getting the feeling others are less worried by this than I am. Its relevance here is that those partisan sales now seem to be the only simple sales with few conditions attached. Offers at other times are either generally have strings attached or aren't very good.

    You're not alone feeling like this, those sales that are virtually unattainable for non-DAZ-timezoners make me furious every time I hear of them. And every time, I cut down my wishlist a little more.  

    To clarify what I wrote above, I published a table of the March sales on my Flash Sales thread that showed that Daz has reverted to partisan sales. I know it was there because it had a reply. I assumed you knew about it because I told people about the sale, and I assumed they didn't care because there was only one reply to query how I'd worked out which timezones got which sales. I didn't know the table had gone. It's off topic here, so this is just to clarify.

    I don't have an email from the moderators to explan why it's gone, so I assume it was a glitch. Or maybe something to do with the rant that followed (although wouldn't I get an email?) I would certainly be curious to know why it was removed. If it's the rant, fair enough.

    I've put the table back, but not the rant. The artists sale on 18th March is the one that gave 65% off those Lindsey items in my wishlist. March Madness has yet to offer anything close to that.

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  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198
    edited March 2022

    ioonrxoon said:

    The only G8 items I'm seeing under 2.99 are Daz+ ones, those are nothing uncommon at those prices.

    Ah OK. Well I have DAZ+ until Jan, so I'll keep an eye out for the cheaper items.

    After that I won't renew for a couple of years. That way items filter down to the ultra cheap prices by the time I'm back in buying mode again. :)

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  • Hera said:

    So there was no mid-month catch-up sale neither last week nor this. Now I hope for a final catchup next weekend. 

    There was  one on Friday, just 24 hours, very odd timing. Usually catch ups are all weekend and (I think) start Saturday at Daz midnight

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720

    I came to the conclusion that the reason I'm struggling to find stuff all the old things people are finding is because my art is one track, and I do a lot of the simpler modelling myself. I thought it was hard to find old things I want, because if they appealed to me, I already bought them...

    but I can say that by sorting the artist sale pages by price ascending, I could find some old G1 / G2 clothing I'd missed, including some incredible G2 boots. Whether I can trasnfer them to G8.1 is another matter, although I am hopeful the method SickleYield outlines on DA will work. They were cheap enough to risk it. 

    I could have bought more this way, but I decided to save some in case I need to buy them alongside something else to increase its discount on another day...

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    Anything I like in the new goes in the wishlist now until APril. 

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    So far, there were 5 days of March madness where I did not buy anything. The other days, mostly grab bag items, and because they were priced higher than last year, I took just those I reallly, really wanted or needed, So, with this new pricing strategy, DAZ is loosing most of my spendings to another store.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    It's worth mentioning that bang-for-buck has long been in Daz's favor and may still be, even with sales strategies that seem sort of disappointing right now.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

    I definitely feel your pain on that! I imagine the pricing works out even worse where you are. And it sounds like you're in dire need of a new system.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532
    edited March 2022

    Torquinox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

    I definitely feel your pain on that! I imagine the pricing works out even worse where you are. And it sounds like you're in dire need of a new system.

    it's not actually that old even, I have no issues rendering older stuff even in iray but now everything is extra highpoly, huge textures with every PBR channel Dforce everything etc

    I spend more time using things like scene optimizer and hiding stuff to make it fit than I do rendering 

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Torquinox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

    I definitely feel your pain on that! I imagine the pricing works out even worse where you are. And it sounds like you're in dire need of a new system.

    it's not actually that old even, I have no issues rendering older stuff even in iray but now everything is extra highpoly, huge textures with every PBR channel Dforce everything etc

    I spend more time using things like scene optimizer and hiding stuff to make it fit than I do rendering 

    How much memory is on your graphics card?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,532

    Torquinox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Torquinox said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

    I definitely feel your pain on that! I imagine the pricing works out even worse where you are. And it sounds like you're in dire need of a new system.

    it's not actually that old even, I have no issues rendering older stuff even in iray but now everything is extra highpoly, huge textures with every PBR channel Dforce everything etc

    I spend more time using things like scene optimizer and hiding stuff to make it fit than I do rendering 

    How much memory is on your graphics card?

    6GB VRAM

    its a GTX980Ti 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    How much memory is on your graphics card?

    6GB VRAM

    its a GTX980Ti 

    Good to know. Thank you. And you don't have room to stuff a smaller 3060 into your box? They're not all 3-fan monsters. surprise 

  • RL_MediaRL_Media Posts: 339
    edited March 2022

    You have to be a fool to buy a GPU now at these prices. And I should know, I just bought a 3070Ti for a bit more than I paid for my 2080 super. Damn fool I am lol......
    Talked myself into it with the reasoning that the rumored pwer consumption of the 4x series would raise my power bill way more, so I should sit out the 4x series, and hopefully find somethin next round.

    Post edited by RL_Media on
  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    the prices are actually far less of an issue for me with new products than the hardware requirements 

    And now everything says DAZ Studio 4.20 so we have no idea if they are usable in earlier versions. I have several products in DIM too that offer updates but I don’t know if they were just fixed for errors or updated specifically for 4.20. And why are there earlier products that in the text mention DS 4.93? Have the versions gone backwards? 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    tsroemi said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Grrr, today's one of the rare days I think about buying a new release. But today's also the 2nd or 3rd occasion where I do not own the key item. Of course I own Kiko and her other bundle and a total of 4 items from todays key item bundle. Whoever came up with that single key item thing and that new release for three days to get a extra of bonus mad and a ton of other soso-things: Well done, if I don't qualify for a purchase there won't be a purchase.

    I think the point they are missing is that if you don't qualify, and if you don't qualify, you often don't buy becasue you think you're mising out on the deal.

    I have not qualified for a single one of those deals. My library is probably small comprared to many (about 1,500 things I think) so maybe I should just buy more. And also buy stuff evern single day to qualify for all the extra bonusses. Then I will "save money"!

    But other things annoyed me recently too, and stay with this, because it is relevant here. I am still furious with them for selling a bunch of Lindsay things on my wishlist at 65% off between the hours of 2AM and 6AM. I would have bought them had I been awake. That's a different problem of course, and I'm getting the feeling others are less worried by this than I am. Its relevance here is that those partisan sales now seem to be the only simple sales with few conditions attached. Offers at other times are either generally have strings attached or aren't very good.

    You're not alone feeling like this, those sales that are virtually unattainable for non-DAZ-timezoners make me furious every time I hear of them. And every time, I cut down my wishlist a little more.  

    I'm in the U.S. and I never thought this was fair. The least they should do is run a flash sale and then run the same sale again 12 hours later or so. Give everyone a shot.

    Laurie 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    RL_Media said:

    You have to be a fool to buy a GPU now at these prices. And I should know, I just bought a 3070Ti for a bit more than I paid for my 2080 super. Damn fool I am lol......
    Talked myself into it with the reasoning that the rumored pwer consumption of the 4x series would raise my power bill way more, so I should sit out the 4x series, and hopefully find somethin next round.

    As I pointed out in my graphics card thread, card availability seems to be increasing. Prices seem to be dropping a bit and stabilizing. Unfortunately, broadly speaking, they're still over MSRP. But with the newest cards, there is no MSRP. I do see right now one can get the enormous and overwrought MSI 3070 ti Suprim for $829. That seems like a lot, but my research indicates it was $1300 on release. So, progress!

    Plus, it's not foolish if one needs the GPU to do the work. And we don't know what the street prices of these 4x cards will be. If street prices scale based on capability, which is what I've been seeing in my market checks, these more powerful cards may simply cost a lot more!

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720

    AllenArt said:

    tsroemi said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Grrr, today's one of the rare days I think about buying a new release. But today's also the 2nd or 3rd occasion where I do not own the key item. Of course I own Kiko and her other bundle and a total of 4 items from todays key item bundle. Whoever came up with that single key item thing and that new release for three days to get a extra of bonus mad and a ton of other soso-things: Well done, if I don't qualify for a purchase there won't be a purchase.

    I think the point they are missing is that if you don't qualify, and if you don't qualify, you often don't buy becasue you think you're mising out on the deal.

    I have not qualified for a single one of those deals. My library is probably small comprared to many (about 1,500 things I think) so maybe I should just buy more. And also buy stuff evern single day to qualify for all the extra bonusses. Then I will "save money"!

    But other things annoyed me recently too, and stay with this, because it is relevant here. I am still furious with them for selling a bunch of Lindsay things on my wishlist at 65% off between the hours of 2AM and 6AM. I would have bought them had I been awake. That's a different problem of course, and I'm getting the feeling others are less worried by this than I am. Its relevance here is that those partisan sales now seem to be the only simple sales with few conditions attached. Offers at other times are either generally have strings attached or aren't very good.

    You're not alone feeling like this, those sales that are virtually unattainable for non-DAZ-timezoners make me furious every time I hear of them. And every time, I cut down my wishlist a little more.  

    I'm in the U.S. and I never thought this was fair. The least they should do is run a flash sale and then run the same sale again 12 hours later or so. Give everyone a shot.

    Laurie 

    Thank you, I appreciate that :)

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720
    edited March 2022

    Torquinox said:

    RL_Media said:

    You have to be a fool to buy a GPU now at these prices. And I should know, I just bought a 3070Ti for a bit more than I paid for my 2080 super. Damn fool I am lol......
    Talked myself into it with the reasoning that the rumored pwer consumption of the 4x series would raise my power bill way more, so I should sit out the 4x series, and hopefully find somethin next round.

    As I pointed out in my graphics card thread, card availability seems to be increasing. Prices seem to be dropping a bit and stabilizing. Unfortunately, broadly speaking, they're still over MSRP. But with the newest cards, there is no MSRP. I do see right now one can get the enormous and overwrought MSI 3070 ti Suprim for $829. That seems like a lot, but my research indicates it was $1300 on release. So, progress!

    Plus, it's not foolish if one needs the GPU to do the work. And we don't know what the street prices of these 4x cards will be. If street prices scale based on capability, which is what I've been seeing in my market checks, these more powerful cards may simply cost a lot more!

    I bought my 3090 for the actual price it was supposed to cost in January 2021, but I had to wait many months for it to arrive. At that time, it was possible because I bought the whole machine and that was priorirised. I think I was very, very, very lucky to get that.

    I moved up from the 1060 I was using for several years. I would take products designed for decent hardware and reduce the resolution. Scene Optimiser saw a lot of use. The thing is, I cannot take products designed for the lowest common denominator and add detail that isn't there. My renders are now typically 6,000 x 4,500, and 1K textures are going to be just a bit obvious. On the other hand, I can, and usually do, subdivide the mesh, so that I suppose does work the other way around.

    So if there is a solution here to keep everyone happy, it's going to have to have assets with different options for different hardware, like the recent OOT hair.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Still a nope here.

    Not been able to get a decent price on a gift card.

    Didn't even buy the new Iray Ghost Lights, which would have only cost me $2.00; if I'd had store credit, I would have.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Nath said:

    Havos said:

    The current $8 dollar for a DO pose set flash sale has to be one of the worst deals I have seen for a while. Pose sets are reasonably cheap on the whole, so buying for 8$ represents a 50% discount, but for DAZ+ members this is just a 29% discount, which is pretty miserly even by the standards of the last few months.

    Why does DAZ limit people to just 8 of this pretty dire deal?, I would have thought they would be very happy if customers pick up 20 or 30 at this price point.

     Scarcity, whether artificial or real, creates urgency to buy - just a guess, but it's the only reason I can imagine.

    Nope, not scarce;  they have an infinite number for sale, they just chose to keep the price high, ergo: I keep my cash.

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    AndrewJJP said:

    but I can say that by sorting the artist sale pages by price ascending, I could find some old G1 / G2 clothing I'd missed, including some incredible G2 boots.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying, there some bargains out there not part of the $3.99-$2.99 grab bag sales. Just a bit of effort to sort ascending price, and then maybe a bit of conversion at the other end G2-G8. (Although G2 is often enough for me to get animating as I can mocap straight into G2).

  • N00b4EverN00b4Ever Posts: 299

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    but I can say that by sorting the artist sale pages by price ascending, I could find some old G1 / G2 clothing I'd missed, including some incredible G2 boots.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying, there some bargains out there not part of the $3.99-$2.99 grab bag sales. Just a bit of effort to sort ascending price, and then maybe a bit of conversion at the other end G2-G8. (Although G2 is often enough for me to get animating as I can mocap straight into G2).

    The "problem" with that is that most of the low priced stuff is for old generations. Folks like me who pretty much started with G8 don't find those discounts (better say items) very appealing. I do own few clothes conversions for both G2 and G3 to G8, but the extra time and effort it requires for the micro adjustments (I also have fit control and mesh grabber) is just not worth it for me, specially G2 conversions (G3 is fine). I end up using a close enough version of that outfit from G8 itself. The appeal of the grab bag (at least for me) is that most of the stuff is for the current generation.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    edited March 2022

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    I have not qualified for a single one of those deals. My library is probably small comprared to many (about 1,500 things I think) so maybe I should just buy more. And also buy stuff evern single day to qualify for all the extra bonusses. Then I will "save money"!

     

    From what I've seen, 1,500 products is actually a pretty respectible number of items in a library, it's just crazy people like me and a relative handful of others who give the impression otherwise with the really big product libraries.  The fact is that most people thjat I've turned on to DAZ didn't end up using it that long.  I used to recommend it all the time, but dozens of people all came back saying that they found it far too frustratingly hard to learn how to use figure out... which isn't surprising since the Quick Start and Basic User guides are literally describing an almost completely different program, given that they're so out of date that they predate Iray, so ALL of the instructions on adjusting surfaces, lights and cameras are completely wrong for the program that DAZ now ships out of the box.  There's a point at which saying "yes, but it's free," no longer cuts it as an excuse.  I still find this to be completely baffling, yet the fact is that it's been over 10 years since even that last minimal update.    

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