Mars madness?

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,590

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Actually I don't bother with Grab Bag right now. I wait for the CatchUp and just hope that there will be a buy-in I like. Should be no problem to find 10+ in catch-up whereas I miss the 10-items-threshold on a regular days. With newly mad & still mad I will wait for those new Zev0 and RiverSoft releases if they'll make it in the next days.

    With all the other categories I do not even bother. PA catalog discounts are not as good as Flash Sales even for pretty old items.

    You've very unintentionally made be feel angry by saying that, by agreeing 100% with everything I think. Only a little bit smiley

     It confirms that it's not just me that feels that flash sales are the only good PA sales. And you may know why that will annoy me, or maybe not...

    The cause for annoyance is likely due to the timing. I've read that flash sales are often scheduled in a way that folks in certain time zones are usually unable to participate. Gotta sleep some time! surprise

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720
    edited March 2022

    Torquinox said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Actually I don't bother with Grab Bag right now. I wait for the CatchUp and just hope that there will be a buy-in I like. Should be no problem to find 10+ in catch-up whereas I miss the 10-items-threshold on a regular days. With newly mad & still mad I will wait for those new Zev0 and RiverSoft releases if they'll make it in the next days.

    With all the other categories I do not even bother. PA catalog discounts are not as good as Flash Sales even for pretty old items.

    You've very unintentionally made be feel angry by saying that, by agreeing 100% with everything I think. Only a little bit smiley

     It confirms that it's not just me that feels that flash sales are the only good PA sales. And you may know why that will annoy me, or maybe not...

    The cause for annoyance is likely due to the timing. I've read that flash sales are often scheduled in a way that folks in certain time zones are usually unable to participate. Gotta sleep some time! surprise

    That's it. 11pm here and today's first sale starts. Next one will be 3 AM I expect. And I'll wake up to the mundane March "Madness".

    Enjoy your 65% off. What will I get?

    Night night! 

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  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,982

    marble said:

    benniewoodell said:

    Cybersox said:

    marble said:

    An example is the many animation packs which appear in practically every flash sale (and were before MM started, I believe). I'm hoping that the DAZ desire to sell off as many of those animations as possible is an indication that a new animation system is being developed.

    Or more a case of what price they'll actually sell at, as they're badly overpriced for the little that's in them.  As for a new animation system... there are so many other improvements that need to be done with DAZ Studio itself before it would even begin to be competitive, not the least of which are soft-body physics, cutting the ridiculously huge size of so many newer DAZ products, and, as of the last time I checked... and I'll admit that has been a while... the fact that DS doesn't support motion blur in Iray, which means going back to 3DL rendering, which is being increasingly less supported here. 

    My animated sequences in Daz and even when I render in animations in Blender, I don't render with the motion blur on because then you're locked in to the render, I'd rather have a clean plate. What I do is in After Effects, I apply pixel motion blur to my shots and I have control of how much blur is in the image sequence. 

    @benniewoodell I know this is OT for this thread so I'll keep the point short and you can think about it. I have watched your YouTube tutorial on using Diffeo to send your scenes to Blender for animation but I am wondering if you have mastered the animation (simulation) of clothing on the character in Blender? If so, perhaps you could share with us in a new video. If there's a discussion to be had on this I'm happy to split this off into its own thread.

    @marble you know, every time I think I've got it all figured out and get a great simulation on one item that makes me go heck yeah, I've got it! I go back and do a simulation on something else with what should have been the same settings and it crinkles up like an aluminum can, so I don't know. It's really annoying lol. I'm still working at it though, and when I finally get it figured out, I'll make another video. Right now just because I'm trying to get these three projects I'm on finished so I can start putzing around again and experimenting, I've been animating in Maya since I have access to it through the class I'm in, exporting those keys to Daz so I get the better, smoother IK animation and then using dForce for the cloth simulation. But I am definitely trying to master this still and when I do, I'll post a video in the Blender part of the Daz forums smiley Hope all is well! 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    tsarist said:

    AllenArt said:

    Please don't hate me, but to be fair, it's not Daz's obligation to lower their prices to the level we can afford them because we have no money due to one thing or another. I wouldn't go into a store and complain that the bread costs too much because I have no money to pay for it. I'd just leave it in the store - like I do here most of the time now. I just don't buy ;).

    ????

     

    I don't hate you. I just don't think you're thinking about it clearly. If a company has customers that can't afford the products, then the company has a PROBLEM!

     

    When you walk out that door with your money in your pocket, the company loses too.

    Oh, I agree. I was simply pointing out that Daz has no obligation to lower their prices just because some of us don't have extra money to pay for the stuff. But that also means we have no obligation to buy at their prices either ;). If that hurts them in the end, it's their own doing, not ours. The only way we can vote is with our money. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,531

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

  • WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Same here. Apart from not wanting a single item: Today's two Bonus Mad discount 89% in my cart. And for owning them already I'm offerend a non-stacking 70% on something else. Sure.

    Had a long comment why this years MM is not taking off in the making. But would not change a thing.

    Checked out with the free Warehouse Forklift. Shopping done.
     

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Same here. Apart from not wanting a single item: Today's two Bonus Mad discount 89% in my cart. And for owning them already I'm offerend a non-stacking 70% on something else. Sure.

    Had a long comment why this years MM is not taking off in the making. But would not change a thing.

    Checked out with the free Warehouse Forklift. Shopping done.

    What did you need to get the banner? I didn't get one, although it sounds like I'm not missing much!

  • Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Same here. Apart from not wanting a single item: Today's two Bonus Mad discount 89% in my cart. And for owning them already I'm offerend a non-stacking 70% on something else. Sure.

    Had a long comment why this years MM is not taking off in the making. But would not change a thing.

    Checked out with the free Warehouse Forklift. Shopping done.
     

    Same here. In fact it worked out I'd be paying more with the voucher than I would consider paying normally. Ha ha. Weird.

    Also did anyone manage to pick up anything in todays Grab bag? I bought one wishlist item at $3.99.

    Ho hum.

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

    Oh, I haven't owned a single one of those yet! Thanks :) 

  • HeraHera Posts: 1,958

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Same here. Apart from not wanting a single item: Today's two Bonus Mad discount 89% in my cart. And for owning them already I'm offerend a non-stacking 70% on something else. Sure.

    Had a long comment why this years MM is not taking off in the making. But would not change a thing.

    Checked out with the free Warehouse Forklift. Shopping done.
     

    I found a shader that has been sitting on my wishlist so I was happy. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Well, I bought a Stanley Plum tree today because the discount on all the leprechaun items shot up too quickly not leaving me enough to buy the items I wanted so instead, a tree to plant. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, or at all, do it all the time, but it seems to me as if the introductory discount on new items used to stick around longer than it does now.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,531
    edited March 2022

    I am not DAZ+ and the discount didn't even tempt me, thats whats really sad crying

    I am not saying 70% is bad and I am sure there are other DOs not in that selection I may have bought, I just did not need a single thing that was cheeky

    whats even worse is 10 of my wishlist items were in the list but all halfhearted additions I had free textures from DAZ for, I add the needed products to my WL whenever they give us a freebie but honestly don't want most of them

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    The set of products included items in my Wishlist, but after the discount, they still cost more than they were listed for in previous sales the past few weeks. I didn't buy them when they were cheaper because I have strict criteria for return-on-investment.

    I suppose it's a good deal for those who missed the previous discounts.

    What gets me are the overall price increases on products. Now you have Grab Bag at $3.99 instead of $1.99. 100% increase? I wish *MY* salary doubled in the past year. Everything has gone up and sales/discounts are no longer enticing. As already said, they can raise their prices and we don't have to buy. I just wonder where this is going to land.

    I did spend $9 in last night's flash sale, it was the lowest price I've seen for a specific item I could use so I grabbed it. But I feel cheated.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    If they didn’t force us to get 10 items to get the $2.99 price, I would have spent $18 to $24 daily since the last catch up, Instead I emptied my cart every day except one day when I did manage to find 10. But unless they do a catch up without a buy-in, they’ve lost a lot of money from me. I don’t need any of those things, but for $2,99 I’m willing to buy several but not at $3.99.

    I’m guessing they’re making most of their sales from newbies who don’t already have everything they really need so I guess the sale is good for them, but if they didn’t require 10 grab bag items to get the $2.99 price, they’d have even more money from long time customers. And if they put the prices down to $1.99 I may have purchased 10 or more items daily. And for the PAs, $1.00 in their pocket is better than 0, I kind of feel sorry for them. 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    Wonderland said:

    If they didn’t force us to get 10 items to get the $2.99 price, I would have spent $18 to $24 daily since the last catch up, Instead I emptied my cart every day except one day when I did manage to find 10. But unless they do a catch up without a buy-in, they’ve lost a lot of money from me. I don’t need any of those things, but for $2,99 I’m willing to buy several but not at $3.99.

    I’m guessing they’re making most of their sales from newbies who don’t already have everything they really need so I guess the sale is good for them, but if they didn’t require 10 grab bag items to get the $2.99 price, they’d have even more money from long time customers. And if they put the prices down to $1.99 I may have purchased 10 or more items daily. And for the PAs, $1.00 in their pocket is better than 0, I kind of feel sorry for them. 

    Same here. I can't afford to spend 30 bucks again and again, just to get things that I don't really need to a real bargain price which is still a lot higher than it used to be. So I'm waiting for the catch-up, like many, many others I guess.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Yep, I've been there for a while now, and I'm lucky if there's even anything displayed. With 17131 DAZ originals currently in the store and only 1,353 I don't have, the math isn't exactly in my favor. :/  

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,005

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

    Oh, I haven't owned a single one of those yet! Thanks :) 

    I had the banner and I haven't gotten anything this month, other than the free item that one day (with the coupon). Maybe double check your site messages to see if you got it? Otherwise no idea what would have triggered it.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,876

    AlmightyQUEST said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

    Oh, I haven't owned a single one of those yet! Thanks :) 

    I had the banner and I haven't gotten anything this month, other than the free item that one day (with the coupon). Maybe double check your site messages to see if you got it? Otherwise no idea what would have triggered it.

    It says it is because I own one ore of today's 'Bonus Mad Items' 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited March 2022

    I was looking for two items to buy; they must be cheap and something I want as 24% is decent discount.

    ... Sadly Daz lost some cash again. I really do hate buy-ins

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,027

    nicstt said:

    I was looking for two items to buy; they must be cheap and something I want as 24% is decent discount.

    ... Sadly Daz lost some cash again. I really do hate buy-ins

    Yep, same here. Without a buy-in DAZ would have my money. With it, they don’t. It seems like DAZ is just shooting itself in the foot but maybe buying new items is more important to them than a chunk of cash for a gift card. I really don’t understand their market strategy. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,531
    edited March 2022

    I did finally cave and buy the cheapest thing on my Wishlist in the 70% coupon selection, just so I could get the freebie forklift cheeky

    while the blurb always says a new item I find it works with any paid item over a dollar like it used to say, I guess it's new to me

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    Charlie Judge said:

    AlmightyQUEST said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

    Oh, I haven't owned a single one of those yet! Thanks :) 

    I had the banner and I haven't gotten anything this month, other than the free item that one day (with the coupon). Maybe double check your site messages to see if you got it? Otherwise no idea what would have triggered it.

    It says it is because I own one ore of today's 'Bonus Mad Items' 

    The verbiage on mine is "Because you already own 1 or more of today’s Bonus MAD Items"  but the key part is the following "please enjoy 70% OFF*" and "Does not stack with other discounts."  So, like the vast majority of this March Patheticness promotion so far, it's just another sign that whoever's running the show now seems to prefer that I spend my money elsewhere these days.  

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212

    Wonderland said:

    If they didn’t force us to get 10 items to get the $2.99 price, I would have spent $18 to $24 daily since the last catch up, Instead I emptied my cart every day except one day when I did manage to find 10. But unless they do a catch up without a buy-in, they’ve lost a lot of money from me. I don’t need any of those things, but for $2,99 I’m willing to buy several but not at $3.99.

    I’m guessing they’re making most of their sales from newbies who don’t already have everything they really need so I guess the sale is good for them, but if they didn’t require 10 grab bag items to get the $2.99 price, they’d have even more money from long time customers. And if they put the prices down to $1.99 I may have purchased 10 or more items daily. And for the PAs, $1.00 in their pocket is better than 0, I kind of feel sorry for them. 

    ...I'm a little annoyed that the key items often tend to be expensive bundles.  For today, pay 91$ to get an extra 10% off?  Would need a 1,000$ cart to basically break even.  Wonder how many here actually spend that much in one purchase.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited March 2022

    Charlie Judge said:

    AlmightyQUEST said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Owning both of todays Bonus Mad I assume.

    Oh, I haven't owned a single one of those yet! Thanks :) 

    I had the banner and I haven't gotten anything this month, other than the free item that one day (with the coupon). Maybe double check your site messages to see if you got it? Otherwise no idea what would have triggered it.

    It says it is because I own one ore of today's 'Bonus Mad Items' 

    ...well I did pick up the Daz+ freebie and Sheep 2 (which is a Daz+ item), Thought about the enigma thingy as it's a joke on those flashing tube device from Star Trek first appearing in Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan on the Regula-1 station.

    It's been everywhere, man it's been everywhere

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    kyoto kid said:

    Wonderland said:

    If they didn’t force us to get 10 items to get the $2.99 price, I would have spent $18 to $24 daily since the last catch up, Instead I emptied my cart every day except one day when I did manage to find 10. But unless they do a catch up without a buy-in, they’ve lost a lot of money from me. I don’t need any of those things, but for $2,99 I’m willing to buy several but not at $3.99.

    I’m guessing they’re making most of their sales from newbies who don’t already have everything they really need so I guess the sale is good for them, but if they didn’t require 10 grab bag items to get the $2.99 price, they’d have even more money from long time customers. And if they put the prices down to $1.99 I may have purchased 10 or more items daily. And for the PAs, $1.00 in their pocket is better than 0, I kind of feel sorry for them. 

    ...I'm a little annoyed that the key items often tend to be expensive bundles.  For today, pay 91$ to get an extra 10% off?  Would need a 1,000$ cart to basically break even.  Wonder how many here actually spend that much in one purchase.

    Yeah, not this year.  The whole thing is beyond bizarre... though it does make one reconsider the recent attrition of so many PAs to other sites.  Honestly, I keep expecting to open Renderosity one morning and see a big banner welcoming Stonemason as a new exclusive vendor.  :/   

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    well, its strange to get the 70% off banner becasue I already have those bonus items, but I've had nearly every bonus item so far and have not gotten a banner for anything off. The non-stacking kind of kills the deal though. Yeah, 70% off, but nothing that is in my wislist or anything I 'need". Why spend the moeny...if it were to stack I might grab something just because. 

    On that wishlist, I rarely have any DO products in it. 

    Anyway, no DAZ+ items have interested me in awhile either, and the price on those have gone up where I dont even want to use them for when you need to buy a new item to get a great deal. DAZ is slowly falling off my radar
     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,221

    I bought myself a gift card before the sale because I budgeted a certain amount of spending.  I have gotten two sets of the 10 for 2.99 each.  I have also bought a few of the new releases, such as the UltraScenery add-on (this was the budget hog).  All in all, Daz has gotten plenty of my money this March.  I am OK with that; I am not dissatisfied with my purchases.  I did not overspend my budget.  I have enough remaining on my gift card to buy one more set of 10 for 2.99 each, which I plan to save for what I hope will be a final catch-up sale - with just a little left on the card for one item discounted from a PA store.  Will be checking my favorite PAs.

    Even though it seems like I have spent more than most of the people posting in the thread, this year does not feel 'mad' like it did during prior years.  I would have purchased the UltraScenery add-on no matter when it was released.  Really, my participation in the 'Mad' part of the annual March Madness sale is really just the 10 for 2.99 purchases.  I picked up some nice items from my point of view (like HD morphs), but not a crazy good sale.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got an orange banner for 70% off a selected DAZ Original and I cannot find a single one I want surprise

    Same here. Apart from not wanting a single item: Today's two Bonus Mad discount 89% in my cart. And for owning them already I'm offerend a non-stacking 70% on something else. Sure.

    Had a long comment why this years MM is not taking off in the making. But would not change a thing.

    Checked out with the free Warehouse Forklift. Shopping done.
     

    Same here. In fact it worked out I'd be paying more with the voucher than I would consider paying normally. Ha ha. Weird.

    Also did anyone manage to pick up anything in todays Grab bag? I bought one wishlist item at $3.99.

    Ho hum.

    No. I steered clear of the Grab bag. Right now $3.99 is too steep for me. I have no intention of buying TEN just to drop the price.
  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    edited March 2022

    If they didn’t force us to get 10 items to get the $2.99 price, I would have spent $18 to $24 daily since the last catch up, Instead I emptied my cart every day except one day when I did manage to find 10. But unless they do a catch up without a buy-in, they’ve lost a lot of money from me. I don’t need any of those things, but for $2,99 I’m willing to buy several but not at $3.99.

    I’m guessing they’re making most of their sales from newbies who don’t already have everything they really need so I guess the sale is good for them, but if they didn’t require 10 grab bag items to get the $2.99 price, they’d have even more money from long time customers. And if they put the prices down to $1.99 I may have purchased 10 or more items daily. And for the PAs, $1.00 in their pocket is better than 0, I kind of feel sorry for them. 

    Oh god. Yes. If they had the price at $1.99 I would back my cart up to the computer & fill it up. There is a lot of stuff I could use as filler that I would NEVER pay full freight (or even $4) for. Daz is leaving a ton of money on the table.
    Post edited by tsarist on
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