Mars madness?

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    lou_harper said:

    Let's be honest, the last year or so the sales were insane. 80% off, two dollar sales left and right. That kinda stuff should happen once or twice a year. I'm not complaining; picked up a bunch of good stuff for great prices. But I'm sure it wasn't great for the PAs, and might be part of the reason so many has left. I'm not blaming DAZ for dialing back sales. It'll be a hard sale for old timers but new people should find the current sales reasonable.

    My problem is with lack of variety and quality. I won’t buy another figure unless it’s incredibly remarkable because I have a bunch already, and loading a G8 figure already takes forever. A lot of the clothing that has came out recently has been disappointing, and I’m not just talking about the skimpware. If anything, the skimpware is usually higher quality than then regular clothing. DAZ shouldn’t be surprised if people don’t buy trousers that look like cardboard tubes. The most exciting thing I’ve bought lately were some rocks.

     

    Never underestimate a rock.

    ... When you're in a dungeon and your rusty sword breaks - a rock can be a life-saver!

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    James_H said:

    I also wonder about the Gift Card change. If I had store credit, I might have impulse bought. As it is, I'm thinking about whether I want to wield the plastic. So far I haven't. There may have been a Gift Card sale, but if so I missed it (in UK). So purchases so far at $0.

    If this keeps up for March, I may have gone some way to conquer my Daz addiction. So there are lots of positives. 

    I haven't bought a card for over a year; only ran out of credit in February. I was buying less.

    I might be tempted on a decent credit offer; 20% or less with a buy-in is a long way from decent in my book.

    The last month, I've spent elsewhere.

  • The Mars madness was strong in time at V4-M4 ,  In general, I do not like the idea of a Mars madness .

  • N00b4EverN00b4Ever Posts: 299

    Just adding my voice to the overwhelming sea of disappointed poeple. Their new tactics have reduced my buying to an absolute minimum. I guess I have to thank DAZ for killing my DAZ addiction. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,589

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    One ray of hope! - Sort by price ascending on todays MM deals and you get a load of $1 items.

    OK it's more like a pre-vault sale, but if you have a use for V4/M4 stuff (I do - for lo-rez background characters - the older clothes are light on memory use), then it's still a Mad March! (Kinda).

    I'm not seeing any $1 items anywhere.

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,275

    Torquinox said:

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    One ray of hope! - Sort by price ascending on todays MM deals and you get a load of $1 items.

    OK it's more like a pre-vault sale, but if you have a use for V4/M4 stuff (I do - for lo-rez background characters - the older clothes are light on memory use), then it's still a Mad March! (Kinda).

    I'm not seeing any $1 items anywhere.

    You need DAZ+ membership... 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,589

    mding said:

    Torquinox said:

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    One ray of hope! - Sort by price ascending on todays MM deals and you get a load of $1 items.

    OK it's more like a pre-vault sale, but if you have a use for V4/M4 stuff (I do - for lo-rez background characters - the older clothes are light on memory use), then it's still a Mad March! (Kinda).

    I'm not seeing any $1 items anywhere.

    You need DAZ+ membership... 

    Oh. I let that lapse a while ago. Haven't seen a reason to re-up.

  • BandoriFanBandoriFan Posts: 364

    I got a lot of poses during a flash sale. I was disappointed when you had to buy a bundle to unlock weapon sale prices. I considered it too since I like the bundle's hair 

    The new armor looks really good and I still have a lot on my wishlist and am prioritizing weapons, poses, and environments since that's where I'm usually missing

  • i suggest make 3 Days madness 14 -15 - 16 every month .

  • lou_harperlou_harper Posts: 1,163

    I'm not disagreeing with anyone disappointed. This should be called the March Lameness sale. But last year there were so many sales that it became the norm. Maybe have fewer sales but make them mean something. And move the DAZ+ discount back to 30%.

     

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    @Torquinox  Ah yes. I forgot to say I'm a PC+ member.

    Incidently I wonder if the $1.99 offers return for the Annual PC+ sale or whether that will be at Mars madness levels too?

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,621

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    @Torquinox  Ah yes. I forgot to say I'm a PC+ member.

    Incidently I wonder if the $1.99 offers return for the Annual PC+ sale or whether that will be at Mars madness levels too?

    I wouldn't set the expectations too high - this looks like it is the new norm.

    On the other hand, it looks like my current store credit can last for a long time. 

  • Sci Fi FunkSci Fi Funk Posts: 1,198

    @felis - Yes. Feels that way. However if you can find a use for the older stuff (G2 --> V4/M4) then the offers are still good.

    It looks like we are all agreed that our 3D money can find a new home. Perhaps aiming at a new graphics card for example?

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,589

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    @Torquinox  Ah yes. I forgot to say I'm a PC+ member.

    Incidently I wonder if the $1.99 offers return for the Annual PC+ sale or whether that will be at Mars madness levels too?

    Thanks! Anything good in the $1 box? Are they Daz+ items or what? I'm actually holding out to see what the PC+ sale brings. I guess it'll be Daz+ now, but that has been my favorite. Of course, that will depend on my computer situation. It's a bit disheartening to know my intended middle-of-the-pack upgrade solution will set me back about $4k. At least, that's how it looks to me right now. surprise

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,149

    Torquinox said:

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    @Torquinox  Ah yes. I forgot to say I'm a PC+ member.

    Incidently I wonder if the $1.99 offers return for the Annual PC+ sale or whether that will be at Mars madness levels too?

    Thanks! Anything good in the $1 box? Are they Daz+ items or what? I'm actually holding out to see what the PC+ sale brings. I guess it'll be Daz+ now, but that has been my favorite. Of course, that will depend on my computer situation. It's a bit disheartening to know my intended middle-of-the-pack upgrade solution will set me back about $4k. At least, that's how it looks to me right now. surprise

    when is the DAZ+ sale? 

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,589
    edited March 2022

    daveso said:

    when is the DAZ+ sale?

    Isn't that in September?

    Post edited by Torquinox on
  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616

    So today if the grab bag prices were like last years’s PCFAD $1.99 sale I would have spent $40 on 20 items. Instead I’m purchasing one item at $4.99. DAZ/PAs lose $35. 19 PAs just lost $1.00 each from me while one PA is making $2.50 from me. Yesterday I didn’t buy anything in that category but if everything was $1.99 I probably would have also spent about $40.00. I was spending about that much daily in the $1.99 sales last year. Now I’ve spent a total of $20.00 on those items over four days, averaging $5.00 ($4.99) a day. I’m sure many people, like me, are open to buy almost anything at $1.99 but much pickier about $4,99 It seems like it would make more financial sense for them to bring back the $1.99 sales. But, whatever, I guess it’s working for them...

    Yes. This pretty much is EXACTLY what I'm dealing with now. Those PCFAD sales are awesome because I buy stuff I probably would never actually pick up because it's so cheap. I buy stuff I think I MIGHT possibly use at some later date. I was spending a packet everyday. The $4.99 sale? I haven't spent a penny.
  • N00b4EverN00b4Ever Posts: 299

    lou_harper said:

    I'm not disagreeing with anyone disappointed. This should be called the March Lameness sale. But last year there were so many sales that it became the norm. Maybe have fewer sales but make them mean something. And move the DAZ+ discount back to 30%.

     

    Just a correction, the DAZ+ is still at 30% off, what changed was the new items discount. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Torquinox said:

    daveso said:

    when is the DAZ+ sale?

    Isn't that in September?

    Last year there were two... one in Spring, one in Autumn.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,821

    Torquinox said:

    daveso said:

    when is the DAZ+ sale?

    Isn't that in September?

    PC anniversary sale is in October. September is PA sale. 
    There was also a "Semi Annual PC+ sale" in June for the past few years, no idea if there will be one this year too.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,589

    Leana said:

    Torquinox said:

    daveso said:

    when is the DAZ+ sale?

    Isn't that in September?

    PC anniversary sale is in October. September is PA sale. 
    There was also a "Semi Annual PC+ sale" in June for the past few years, no idea if there will be one this year too.

    Yes, thanks. We shall see.

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 720

    felis said:

    Sci Fi Funk said:

    @Torquinox  Ah yes. I forgot to say I'm a PC+ member.

    Incidently I wonder if the $1.99 offers return for the Annual PC+ sale or whether that will be at Mars madness levels too?

    I wouldn't set the expectations too high - this looks like it is the new norm.

    On the other hand, it looks like my current store credit can last for a long time. 
     

    It might need to. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we've seen the last gift card sale...

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    Fairly simple. Without a good gift card sale, my spending has been much less. Looks like it stays that way.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,392

    Leana said:

    Torquinox said:

    daveso said:

    when is the DAZ+ sale?

    Isn't that in September?

    PC anniversary sale is in October. September is PA sale. 
    There was also a "Semi Annual PC+ sale" in June for the past few years, no idea if there will be one this year too.

    It might be as dumbed down as this so called March Maddness sale, in which case it will not be something to get too excited about. It was a pretty good sale in the last two years when they started to run it.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,176

    I just looked througn my March purchases from last year. Two gift cards at 20% off, and every non-pc+ item was either 51% or 55% off. I averaged something over $30 a day during the month. This year - a couple of Daz+ items and several of the new volumetric products at 30% off. And I've only added 5 items to the wishlist this month.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    It is even worse when the items in the $5 grab bag were $1.99 less than a year ago. Here is just one example.

    $3.99 March 8

    $3.49 March 22

    $3.99 April 3

    $2.49 April 26

    $1.99 May 22

    This item was released on Sept 2020, so it was just under 6 months old when the March Madness 2021 sale came around, and the price dropped even more on the sale in May. Now the item is a year and a half old, but the sale is worse.

    I get that inflation is happening. But this sale has a grab bag that is more than double the prices past grab bag deals were, and this is only the tip of the iceberg in rising Daz prices. A $2.99 grab bag would make more sense and fall in line with where inflation is going. A lot of people are penny pinchng now, and the last thing you want people to do is to think about their purchase. The more you slide into the impulse range of a customer's mentality the more you can sell to them. These are digital goods. Most of them made their investment back a long time ago.

  • As prices rise, I also have the impression that new items and in particular many genesis 8.1 figures are below the standard from past years while being priced ridicuously higher.

    I just noticed, that within weeks I have almost completely stopped spending money here while I was wasting literally hunderds of dollars here each month before. Daz should just fire the marketing team.

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152

    And take a look at the thread subjects in the COMMONS FORUM - it seems an awful lot of products have problems with them.

  • NotAnArtistNotAnArtist Posts: 390
    edited March 2022

    I guess I should have made my earlier points here more in the form of a question. Is it a shock that prices go up in economic downturns? Everything else has gone up, why all the complaints??

    Again: There are other, more supportive things that could be done for customers like us, while the prices do necessarily remain higher.

    Make changes to the software so that we can be more productive with it being less expensive to do so. This is the only thing they could be doing to compensate for our "misery" with inflated pricing.

    As I said earlier, I've been working with an old, weak machine. I don't care what the prices of props are because I have little reason to buy them as long as any possible use of them is so extremely limited by the cost of rendering!

    I have finally put together a small machine to replace my old, overheating one. It will only handle musical hobbies. It will not handle iray or several tools any better than my old one. Why should I spend money on an outrageously expensive system? I'm only a hobbyist!

    I'm frankly amazed at the complaining over prices in this thread. It's like some here are more addicted to buying things than they are to creating things! My only wish is for Filament to be made as fast yet attractive as it could be, and my purchases here will remain at minimum until that happens.

    I'm looking at the larger picture, because we're heading for some possibly very bad times.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,528

    the abilty to render stuff certainly is more of the deciding factor than the price, some PAs even if they put a product in a $2 grab I hesitate because I know their sets won't fit on my card

    Fugazi is one, I know many love their sets (their previous collabarion ironman13 ones too have this limitation) but only people with powerful machines or using the CPU doing single images can use them in DAZ studio.

    I am only finally using them now in Unreal Engine or Unreal based software.

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