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Um... to trigger discounts that only come with that item? I've done that in the past if the numbers still work out better, and it often does. Why would someone NOT do that?
>>> By "a person" I was referring to just that, a person, any person. I was lazy in how I phrased it. I'm even lazier when I speak. Sorry!
>>> Agree. We can't change a system we don't own :)
Good luck to you..., to all of us here!
All told, the very reappropriately renamed March Sadness is kind of the epitome of what's been happening with DAZ lately. Higher prices, lesser discounts, poorer custumer service, and frequent buyers and early buyers now being constantly penalized for being good customers, be it with required Key items or new product bundles that are shoved full of older product that many already own. Ironically, this is coming at a time when Renderosity has brought Poser back from life support and is aggresively running sales that are far better than what DAZ is running, while free programs like Blender and Unreal have become much more user friendly even as they're being adopted by major studios, and companies like Reallusion have consistantly been delivering features that DAZ depends on PAs to deliver. Last year I spent way over a thousand dollars during March Madness. So far this year, on the 7th of March, my grand total spending here has been 178.04, and $71.48 of that was from before March Sadness started. One has to wonder if anyone in Salt Lake realizes that there is no longer really anything unique about DAZ, that they're certainly no longer the only game in town, and that there are plenty of alternative venues providing plenty of products at comparable prices to what DAZ used to be known for. If it wasn't for the fact that DAZ is in Utah I'd say that they need to wake up and smell the coffee, but hey, I'm sure Renderosity is sending lots of love and kisses to the DAZ marketing guys right now.
Sure, if it works - my point was that no one is expected or required to buy something to earn a discount if it would end up osting more than the discount saved and they didn't want it enough to justify the price difference. I to have purchased things I wasn't interested in when it saved money overall (mostly with the old Pro bundles and associated add-ons).
Sorry for the late reply - all my $1 bargains were Victorian related. One of my films is set in that period, so I'm always happy to pick up extra clothes. I don't mind if it's V4-G8. I will convert accordingly. So I picked up 16 items for $18.31 - great!
Prices on Steam are basically the same as they have been for, oh, 10+ years. So I don't buy this argument for one second. These are DIGITAL assets. When you buy gas or food that is product with a finite distribution, and it all has pricing coming from the components that make them a finished product.
Daz is raising prices on digital goods that already existed before the crisis began. Goods that were already on their servers, and some goods long before a downturn happened.
Now perhaps the rent went up for Daz. I can get that. But again, as I said earlier, if this was just one thing it would be accepted. If the prices went up a little bit, it would be accepted. But the prices on offer are not even close. We are talking a 2.5x price increase on grab bag items.
2.5X!
That alone outpaces the rate of inflation. Then you add all of the other stuff on top of that, and it gets to be pretty outragious.
How is a 2.5 times increase on an old digital good defensible? While there may be a limit of Daz users, there is no actual limit to how many digital goods Daz can sell. If 100 million people wanted to buy Victoria they can do so. There is nothing stopping them as long as the website doesn't crash. But 100 million people cannot buy a high end GPU, because they don't exist in that number. There is a genuine supply and demand there. It is not my problem that Daz does not have 100 million users. Maybe they need to do a better job expanding their customer base.
And if most people are hobby users, who is going to get hurt more by an economic downturn? Are people going to skip gas or food to keep buying digital goods?
Um, no. Descretionary spending is the first to get pulled back in any downturn.
So in reality, can Daz truly afford to raise prices? I don't think so. But as I also said earlier, the success of the sale will determine the answer.
Also, I don't blame the PAs at all. They don't make these sales up. They can only approve of what products go in what sales.
Thanks Sci Fi Funk! I have so much stuff I haven't used yet... :D
Lots of pages discussing what is essentially very simple: we buy what we can afford. Professionals might have a bigger budget than hobbyists but there's always a limit. My buying has almost stopped since the PA sale late last year. That's due to a combination of a lack of funds and a lack of enthusiasm for what is on offer. What would excite me is better technology: better animation tools, better physics, better (and quicker) dForce, faster renders (an Eevee equivalent). Such DAZ Studio new features would trigger a whole new generation of content and breathe new life into the DAZ ecosystem.
[EDIT]: I know that Blender has all those features but it is a PITA (for me) to keep exporting scene after scene (or tweaks to the same scene) to Blender.
You cannot spin the discount being less than some previous discounts in similarly structured offers as the price rising - the base price on these items has not, as far as I am aware, increased. That doesn't mean you cannot comment on or complain about the offer compared to previous offers, but it is not a price rise.
Yeh, but I don't really care; not any more.
I enjoy coming to the forums, having a rant (or sometimes a rave), responding to a few posts - and on rare occasions (these days) buying something.
It's ludicrous how much I've spent in years past during March Madness, last year was less but still a decent amount; this year, hell, I wonder if I'll hit $50 for the month?
... Who know?
So far $0.00. So I should be wondering if I'll get ot $10.
The Hacienda Bathroom got wishlisted.
I need a good discount on a gift card, so likely $10 is looking a bit iffy atm.
I'm not. Its not really 15% , is it? You have to buy items to get it there. Probably just as god a deal at 10%. unless you a big spender. My GC purchases rarely big enough to overcome the buy in.
Well, I have 2 DAZ+ new items that I plan to get anyway before the price goes up on Wednesday. So, yes it is 15% for me; but most gift cards I buy are over 20% off. The last gift card I bought was on 16 January at 27.7% off and I still have some left. So, I'm not sure I'll bother with the current offer.
Wow, your points wipe my points! Maybe I just have some 'love' left over for the Daz team, or maybe I'm insane. I mean, me, defending a corporation?
Seriously, I think my point was that I assume the PAs also get paid more from sales of their old products when they're sold for more, same as the new stuff. I love the PAs, so that's who I felt I was defending. If the corporates get all the booty, I'm out'a here!
I would love the Daz techies as well if they'd provide us with something for higher quality rendering that wouldn't put many of us in debt, though. There are people working on iray, why not give some love to Filament as well, considering the increasing stress we're under? It would help ALL of us in one way or another, PAs included, as I've already been redundant about.
Thanks for your comments. I stand corrected, or at least a bit tilted :)
I suppose it's good to hear that they've finally offered a GC sale. Even if it's a small one. If they'd done it before the sale started I prtobably would have bought into it.
But, I've lost momentum. There have been a few things released that I've liked the look of, and a few that I've bought, and whittled away at the store credit that I had at the end of last month. But I've been purchasing here since 2009 (not as long as some of the regulars here, but a decent amount of time) And my content library doesn't have a lot of major gaps that I feel I need to fill. I think it may be time to let the store credit run out ad evaluate purchases on a case by case basis.
It will mean fewr sales. But I daresay there will still be sales. There are several vendors whose work I tend to support if what they are offering is at all useful. And I doubt that they are going to disappear in a hurry. But I think its past time to stop buying things just to be buying things.
I'll definitely still be here in the forums. That's a resource I don't see loosing value any time soon.
I have a wishlist of over 500 items, mostly G3 and older things. I was hoping to clear some off this month, but... I have a hard time even remembering to come and check out the sales page, as there is nothing I want, and no real sales to lure me in. I have been shopping elsewhere because I still have some Mad-money, just not for this Madness :-) It's like standing in a salesroom waving money around, crying, "Doesn't anybody want it?" :-D
Was wondering if perhaps DAZ was saving a particularly special sale for IWD but, well... seems not. The featured old pro bundles are still over $50 (but hey, at least coupons seem to apply), and the select items are a strict 60%, no stacking, no coupons, and on top of that a max of five. There is a 'free' hotel restaurant set, but you'll have to be spending upwards of $40 on MAD still/new releases to get it.
Also, by this point the qualifiers for the extra %s on artist stores are so darn confusing I don't know where to start, and even owning a previous pro bundle, with more than 2 of the required items, a *gen 1* clothing item still only gets up to 69%, with a newer item at 59%. So those extra 10%s aren't really doing much at all with the diminishing returns of non-combining stacking.
-moan over
The way they're throwing around "Buy 3-4+ new items" like it's nothing, to unlock a discount or a free items is ridiculous. Not only is it an insanely high buy in, but limiting the selection to daily releases makes it pretty much impossible to take advantage of it, even if you wanted to... what are the odds of finding 4 newly mad items out of 8 that you're willing the pay the intro price for? If they included all new relases, or at least still mad, it might work, but not like this.
You are welcome. I bought her yesterday, and I'll have a proper look through your other products today :)
Yesterdays flash gift card sale was... underwhelming. Having to buy things I don't want to get a better discount, I could as well buy full price.
Besides that, the current MM sale does not really inspire me spending more money. Given my current spending, my remaining store credit will last till end of December ... 2030.
$1.10 Alert!
Today a ton of old items are available for $1.10 in the Mad Mars/Sad March sale! I am looking at clothing for M1/V1 through M4/V4 (including A3 stuff).
I would imagine you would need to be a PC+ subscriber as I am to see the deal. To make use of these you would have to put in some effort with the Clothes Convertor 4 product available on Daz, to get them up to V4/M4, then either clothes convertors or own some clone shapes to autofit them to G1-G8. In my opinion these old clothes look find for background characters, but I wouldn't use them in the foreground.
Happy days are here again! (Sorta).
Any earlier year I bet that item would've been free with no strings attached. Or at least "free with any other buy."
Thanks for mentioning, normally i always check the pc+ daz+ stuff, but today i probably would have missed it!
@mding Happy hunting! I'm finding period stuff of use (Victorian, 20s-50s), if that's your thing.
@Sci Fi Funk Yeah , but also fantasy middle ages can be very useful, sometimes its just important to add some subdivision to make it useful again...
Base prices have definitely been increasing over the past 1-1/2 or 2 years. Average price of a new character is higher. Clothes are higher, hair is higher, environments are higher. And not by just a buck or two, but significant increases.
I wondered if they recently got a new head of marketing. It appears that a new Director of ECommerce started In November 2021. That might well explain the changes. It's only right that someone new will come in with new ideas for growing the business. Either they'll work or they won't I guess.
Given this is the first big event since October, you do have to wonder if it points way forwards for the future sales.
I've just realised (like everyone probably already has before me) that I don't think this IWD sale really had that much (or any) effort put into it. The new releases feature one woman, but looking back so does every other batch of new releases. As far as I can tell, the Featured Artists aren't specifically women. The select clothing items don't fit the theme, there's original nature items for some reason, the grab bag has nothing to do with it... and they are literally touting 'previous women of the day bundles' which really just feels like they went 'oops, hang on, what did we do last time. Just put that there again.' No new woman of the day bundle?
The IWD items carousel is fine enough I suppose (though from what I can see it's predominantly fashion items, though I suppose that's the rule for the store in general), but having a max of 5 still being capped at the uninteresting 60% also just feels like they chucked anyhting labelled as G8F in the hopes that people will buy it only because of the event. Not even like there's a charity or anything.
So... wait, I'm having a big surprise pikachu face moment. They seem to be just using the label IWD to sell items... and that's it. I don't think there's really much progressivity going on here at all. Took me this long to realise, lol.
*Disclaimer; 'women' in the sense of anyone identifying as a woman. Would've been awesome to have August 8.1 included in the items but ah well.
@mding Good tip - thank you. :)
I think both things are true. Prices have generally gone up as new things are released, and by quite some margin. I don't recall seeing older items having their prices raised beyond the (non-discounted) price when they were first released.
The closest thing I've seen is when some new releases had their new release discount reduced while they were still new, but that's a change of discount.
OK, just a quick followup r.e. my previous lamentation.
Today's sale does have an 'extra 10-30% off' component for older PA items, determined by release date, not so much by generation, although the two are fairly related. So that's something, and some older stuff is less than $1.
Not anywhere near that one year (2018?) where I had a bunch of older items in my cart for 25 cents each or less, and others below 50 cents along with some newer items with decent discounts as well, but today's offer is better than nothing. Thank goodness I went crazy that year, one of my invoices had over 200 items on it and the cart was VERY sluggish that day with all of those items, and I was worrying that the checkout routine would crash. It didn't, and I ended up double dipping in a few daily sales that spring as there were a lot of killer deals, even on some newer stuff.
I would have bought more that day, but my Daz budget could only go so far. My Daz budget isn't tiny, but it still has monthly limits, I can't just buy stuff just because all the time.
2018 wasn't that long ago, so when you hear some of us 'old timers' lamenting about why the new deals just aren't wowing us, this is why.
One other note. The 'MSRP prices' for stuff that is already in the store hasn't changed. I just checked the prices of a few Pro characters versus what it was a few years back, and the MSRP remains the same. What HAS changed is the level of discounts that we are routinely seeing on these stuff, as compared to previous years. So the price we end up paying overall for each item HAS gone up, as the discounts being offered are significantly less than they have been in previous years, so we end up paying more as a result. Also, the 'buy-ins' for extra discounts are generally more steep than in previous years as well, thanks again to the lower introductory and other discounts currently being offered, as well as higher MSRPs on newly released items in a number of instances.
I'm making sure to fire off my two Daz+ coupons for this month, but as others have re-iterated, not a lot to be excited about in this sale. And the 20% off debut items thing still feels like a kick in the teeth, after this being 30% off (51% off DOs) for so many years.
As I said before, my 'total dollar amount' in spending is DEFINITELY down this year, say by around 90%+ less compared to last year. My wishlist is still huge, but thanks to previous sales, I pretty much have all that I really need for now. I do like getting new stuff, and would shop more if the deals were more in line with previous years, but as it stands, unless the Daz3D.com sales team steps up their game, well my Daz budget is more focused on other stores atm.
BTW, someone else coined 'March Sadness' earlier in this thread (wasn't me), but I do feel that it is an appropriate sentiment.
Your move, Daz3D.com sales team!