3D Printing Licences - What?

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,971

    Taoz said:

    dazamonium said:

    I think being able to filter your library by license type would be phenomenal.

    Filtering by artist and license type would be ideal (standard, interactive, print).

    For interactive licences just type "interactive", that will show your licenses, as these are separate products.

    Actually you can filter both on "interactive" and "3dprinting", as well as on product name, to show the licenses. 

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  • Taoz said:

    Taoz said:

    dazamonium said:

    I think being able to filter your library by license type would be phenomenal.

    Filtering by artist and license type would be ideal (standard, interactive, print).

    For interactive licences just type "interactive", that will show your licenses, as these are separate products.

    Actually you can filter both on "interactive" and "3dprinting", as well as on product name, to show the licenses. 

    It would also be very useful to see the license status for each type of license on the product's page, this would mean that you do not need all the additional filtering

  • CitizenMCitizenM Posts: 39

    So 2-3 episodes of Star Trek Lower decks and I've made it through three pages of my products list. Just 390 to go. The good news is that this will save me so much money over the next couple weeks of doing this in all of my free time as a functional adult. I won't be able to buy anything so I can keep track of what is in my cart until I go through all of those other pages. Thanks for the savings DAZ, sorry your vendors won't be making any sales in the meantime. Too bad they couldn't find a better way to do this since I like shopping here and just don't have time for this tedium regardless. But I might need to print something someday. you'd think some software program could just keep track of our previous purchases and let this products automatically get grandfathered in when we needed them, almost like it would require a box being checked on their side or something. Shame it must not be that easy.

    No time, no money, no point.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,971
    edited August 2022

    paolo_35229750 said:

    It would also be very useful to see the license status for each type of license on the product's page, this would mean that you do not need all the additional filtering

    If you mean the product page, you can see both there.  The checkboxes for buying the license(s) are checked then and look different.

    If you mean the library page, it already shows the Standard/Interactive license status for each product, but when I bought a 3dprinting license for testing it now says "3dprinting License" instead for that product, and no mention of Standard/Interactive status.  Question is what it says if you have both, which I can't test with any of the products I have without buying an Interactive License.

     

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,971
    edited August 2022

    CitizenM said:

    So 2-3 episodes of Star Trek Lower decks and I've made it through three pages of my products list. Just 390 to go. The good news is that this will save me so much money over the next couple weeks of doing this in all of my free time as a functional adult. I won't be able to buy anything so I can keep track of what is in my cart until I go through all of those other pages. Thanks for the savings DAZ, sorry your vendors won't be making any sales in the meantime. Too bad they couldn't find a better way to do this since I like shopping here and just don't have time for this tedium regardless. But I might need to print something someday. you'd think some software program could just keep track of our previous purchases and let this products automatically get grandfathered in when we needed them, almost like it would require a box being checked on their side or something. Shame it must not be that easy.

    No time, no money, no point.

    According to what has been said earlier DAZ is looking into a way to add all the licenses you are entitled to to your library, in a simple way. 

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  • Solar DreamerSolar Dreamer Posts: 54
    edited August 2022

    Taoz said:

    Actually you can filter both on "interactive" and "3dprinting", as well as on product name, to show the licenses. 

    That's basically just a product search, so it's not exactly real filtering. That works if you're only looking for licenses you already have, but that doesn't show you what licenses you're missing that you might need. It also clogs your product library, so really should be set up as a proper filter.

    Filtering by artist and license type would allow you to quickly find which products from a specific artist you have licenses for, as well as which ones you're missing for a specific purpose.


    Ideally, the way it would let you filter would be by artist, and then for licenses let you check whatever license combinations you want to see:

    • Selecting no license type would show you everything
    • Selecting Standard would show you products by that artist with only a standard license
    • Selecting Interactive, 3dprint, or Editorial would show you products with said licenses
    • Selecting more than one of them would show you products with licenses for multiple purposes (for instance, products you have with both an interactive and 3dprint license).

    It would also be nice to have license status remembered in DAZ Studio itself, with a license check option you can select on export to verify that the content you're exporting has all the valid licenses required for the target medium (e.g. game/interactive, 3d print, editorial I guess too now since they added that).

    Another nice thing would be an option to export a csv file of our library, separated by license type.

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,752
    edited August 2022

    I've run into another problem with getting the licenses for free. I purchased several items long ago. Very recently, I purchased a bundle that contained some of those already-owned items. Now all the items in the bundle seem to be identified by Daz as being purchased after the free license deadline. Daz wants to charge me $1.99 for each of those items I purchased many months ago. no

    Example:

    • I purchased Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer on 27 Nov 2021. The 3D printing license should qualify as free.
    • I purchased MetaMixer Mega Bundle on 26 Jul 2022. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • I purchased Feminine MetaMixer Add-On Bundle on 05 Aug 2022, for $0 in one of the "pay for what you don't own" bundle sales, to make it show as owned. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • Now, when I add the 3D Printing License for Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer to my cart, it shows as $1.99 and takes it from my Store Credit instead of discounting it to free.

    I'll submit a ticket, but I'm not going to buy it under these conditions. sad

    Ticket submitted:
    Request #416679
    Recent purchase of bundle disables ability to get free 3D Print License for previously purchased item

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,868
    edited August 2022

    barbult said:

    I've run into another problem with getting the licenses for free. I purchased several items long ago. Very recently, I purchased a bundle that contained some of those already-owned items. Now all the items in the bundle seem to be identified by Daz as being purchased after the free license deadline. Daz wants to charge me $1.99 for each of those items I purchased many months ago. no

    Example:

    • I purchased Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer on 27 Nov 2021. The 3D printing license should qualify as free.
    • I purchased MetaMixer Mega Bundle on 26 Jul 2022. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • I purchased Feminine MetaMixer Add-On Bundle on 05 Aug 2022, for $0 in one of the "pay for what you don't own" bundle sales, to make it show as owned. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • Now, when I add the 3D Printing License for Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer to my cart, it shows as $1.99 and takes it from my Store Credit instead of discounting it to free.

    I'll submit a ticket, but I'm not going to buy it under these conditions. sad

    I wish you more luck than I had. When I purchased some bundles after 12 July the items in them that I had purchased earlier were reset to the purchase time of the bundle. I submitted a ticket but CS was unable to add the licenses to my library. They did, however, say they would forward the problem to marketing to look in to it. Maybe if enough people submit tickets they will fix the problem.

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  • Charlie Judge said:

    barbult said:

    I've run into another problem with getting the licenses for free. I purchased several items long ago. Very recently, I purchased a bundle that contained some of those already-owned items. Now all the items in the bundle seem to be identified by Daz as being purchased after the free license deadline. Daz wants to charge me $1.99 for each of those items I purchased many months ago. no

    Example:

    • I purchased Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer on 27 Nov 2021. The 3D printing license should qualify as free.
    • I purchased MetaMixer Mega Bundle on 26 Jul 2022. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • I purchased Feminine MetaMixer Add-On Bundle on 05 Aug 2022, for $0 in one of the "pay for what you don't own" bundle sales, to make it show as owned. Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer is included in that bundle.
    • Now, when I add the 3D Printing License for Khemsit 8 Add-On for MetaMixer to my cart, it shows as $1.99 and takes it from my Store Credit instead of discounting it to free.

    I'll submit a ticket, but I'm not going to buy it under these conditions. sad

    I wish you more luck than I had. When I purchased some bundles after 12 July the items in them that I had purchased earlier were reset to the purchase time of the bundle. I submitted a ticket but CS was unable to add the licenses to my library. They did, however, say they would forward the problem to marketing to look in to it. Maybe if enough people submit tickets they will fix the problem.

    I believe this is being looked into.

  • Solar DreamerSolar Dreamer Posts: 54
    edited August 2022

    Richard Haseltine said:

    I believe this is being looked into.

    Any word on when the bulk 3d print redemption option will be made available?

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  • Solar Dreamer said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    I believe this is being looked into.

    Any word on when the bulk 3d print redemption option will be made available?

    Nothing concrete, no - sorry.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    Haven't been following the conversation here much, but wanted to share what I've found. Response from support ticket as of yesterday was no word on an automated ability being added. Let me tell you why you might not want to have an automated process. I've spent the last several days going through and adding hundreds of licenses manually. Today, I came across two bundles that were not free and (I'm pretty sure) should've been: Monique 6 Starter Bundle and Keiko 6 Pro Bundle (none of the items in either bundle showed up as free after adding to the cart). If I had trusted an automated process, I would not have known some licenses were missed. As it is, I was able to request the addition by way of support ticket. Will see how that goes. Will post if there's further trouble. 

    SO, yeah, maybe an automated process isn't going to be the greatest if there turn out to be many more bundles like these. It took me going through many hundreds of items just to discover these two. I have several thousand products left to get.

  • CitizenMCitizenM Posts: 39
    edited August 2022

    Taoz said:

    CitizenM said:

    According to what has been said earlier DAZ is looking into a way to add all the licenses you are entitled to to your library, in a simple way. 

    Thanks Taos! I don't even have enough free time right now to read the whole post. Thank you again. Hope it happens soon and I catch it in time.

    Also, I seem to be a tourist on posting correctly. 

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,971
    edited August 2022

    Wanderer said:

    Haven't been following the conversation here much, but wanted to share what I've found. Response from support ticket as of yesterday was no word on an automated ability being added. Let me tell you why you might not want to have an automated process. I've spent the last several days going through and adding hundreds of licenses manually. Today, I came across two bundles that were not free and (I'm pretty sure) should've been: Monique 6 Starter Bundle and Keiko 6 Pro Bundle (none of the items in either bundle showed up as free after adding to the cart). If I had trusted an automated process, I would not have known some licenses were missed. As it is, I was able to request the addition by way of support ticket. Will see how that goes. Will post if there's further trouble. 

    SO, yeah, maybe an automated process isn't going to be the greatest if there turn out to be many more bundles like these. It took me going through many hundreds of items just to discover these two. I have several thousand products left to get.

    If you own a bundle you also own the individual items, and these are all recorded in your account.  So if DAZ just ignore the bundles which can't be printed themselves anyway, which is the logical thing to do, and just add the license to all regular items, that shouldn't be a problem.  All in all it should be a fairly simple database operation I believe.  Iterate through the items of an account, check if item was purchased before 2022-07-12 and is a DAZ Original, if yes, add license to the item. 

    Only problem I see is accounts with duplicate items, which may or may not cause issues.  I know of a couple of people with that issue, and I got it myself too not long ago.  For my part it occured after I added a lot of Starter bundles to my account which at that time you could do for free if you owned all the items in them (which you do if you own the pro bundle), to avoid them cluttering the store pages.  After that I now have a number of products with one or more duplicates, e.g. Michael 4 is listed 6 times in my library.


     

     

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  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100

    BeeMKay said:

    3D Printing Licenses have landed in the Daz store! Plus, for a limited time only, you can get FREE* 3D Printing Licenses for any Daz Original Items you owned before July 12, 2022. All other Daz Original 3D Printing Licenses are available for just $1.99 each.

    Simply visit the product page, add the 3D Printing License to your cart, and check out!
    *Free 3D Printing License offer expires Sept. 30 at 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    But you are right. They seriously exoect us to go through hundreds, thousands of products that we bought, add the new license to the cart, and check out?

    I clicked that page, and then clicked "show only products you owned" and got 9,800 products.

    Really, DAZ, I'm supposed to go manually add nearly 10,000 items to my cart. Or to 100 carts, because there seems to be a limit to how many items you can put in a cart before cart-astrophy strikes.

    I also don't see these licenses, anywhere on the pruduct pages.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    wiz said:

    I also don't see these licenses, anywhere on the pruduct pages.

    Try another browser or check the settings for Dazdeals.

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  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

    Daz could just change the EULA to allow 3D printing use of anything purchased bfore a certain date. That would make this all so simple.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    Taoz said:

    Wanderer said:

    Haven't been following the conversation here much, but wanted to share what I've found. Response from support ticket as of yesterday was no word on an automated ability being added. Let me tell you why you might not want to have an automated process. I've spent the last several days going through and adding hundreds of licenses manually. Today, I came across two bundles that were not free and (I'm pretty sure) should've been: Monique 6 Starter Bundle and Keiko 6 Pro Bundle (none of the items in either bundle showed up as free after adding to the cart). If I had trusted an automated process, I would not have known some licenses were missed. As it is, I was able to request the addition by way of support ticket. Will see how that goes. Will post if there's further trouble. 

    SO, yeah, maybe an automated process isn't going to be the greatest if there turn out to be many more bundles like these. It took me going through many hundreds of items just to discover these two. I have several thousand products left to get.

    If you own a bundle you also own the individual items, and these are all recorded in your account.  So if DAZ just ignore the bundles which can't be printed themselves anyway, which is the logical thing to do, and just add the license to all regular items, that shouldn't be a problem.  All in all it should be a fairly simple database operation I believe.  Iterate through the items of an account, check if item was purchased before 2022-08-12 and is a DAZ Original, if yes, add license to the item. 

    Only problem I see is accounts with duplicate items, which may or may not cause issues.  I know of a couple of people with that issue, and I got it myself too not long ago.  For my part it occured after I added a lot of Starter bundles to my account which at that time you could do for free if you owned all the items in them (which you do if you own the pro bundle), to avoid them cluttering the store pages.  After that I now have a number of products with one or more duplicates, e.g. Michael 4 is listed 6 times in my library.


     

     

    I appreciate the attempt at helping, but let me be clear in what I've tried to share. I went through hundreds of my items, all of the Daz Originals, so far they've all worked except for a handful that I might not have acquired before the cut-off. And then today, I stumbled across a bunch of items that would not work. Add the individual items, which all belonged to those two bundles, did NOT work. Everything else has worked, including textures and bundles... even Studio lights and Iray shaders. Except for those two bundles. Which means, for some reason unknown to myself, those two bundles were not being counted even though they should've. I've had both of those bundles for over a year. They are both Daz Originals. They should've been free, but they weren't.

    So, I reiterate what I said before. If I were using an automated solution, which I previously advocated for, I would not have known about the failure of those licenses to count until it would likely be past the deadline to acquire them.  Should it be easy to do? Yes. It SHOULD. 

    You do you. I'm not waiting for the automated "solution" which has not been promised. Support told me yesterday there was no word on whether one would be forthcoming. They told me they wouldn't even know if it did happen and that I'd have better chances finding out through the store pages. SOoooo... I'm not waiting for that solution when, if I do it myself, it'll be done to my standard, and I can put in a support ticket for the ones that didn't work, just as I did for those two bundles. Besides, with Daz Deals configured properly, it doesn't take too long to do a hundred of them. A few more days, and I should have them all. If you want to wait for a possible solution, that's fine. Since I now know that some items might get missed, I'd rather not wait.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    Okay, I figured out what my particular issue was--I had the Keiko 6 Mega Manga Bundle, but only recently acquired the Keiko 6 pro bundle. Also, I had Monique 7 since 2017, but apparently just got Monique 6 after the cut off as well. So, I was right in that I had some products with those names, but mistaken about the packages I owned before the end date. My bad. I apologize for my mistake. I intended to warn others because I was certain I'd had those products prior to the cut off, but I was wrong. 

    Having said that, I'm still not willing to wait for the automated solution. Everything else has been working fine. It's a pretty smooth process, and as I said, it doesn't take that long to make a purchase of about 100 product licenses. Daz Deals makes it easy to only show Daz Originals I own, Ctrl tab on each product until I get a full browser, click each tab, click checkbox, add license, wait for screen to dim, click the x for that tab and go on to the next. When I get to the last tab for that run, I go to cart, check for any that weren't free... complete transaction. I don't even look at the items I'm processing because I don't have time for all that.

  • wiz said:

    BeeMKay said:

    3D Printing Licenses have landed in the Daz store! Plus, for a limited time only, you can get FREE* 3D Printing Licenses for any Daz Original Items you owned before July 12, 2022. All other Daz Original 3D Printing Licenses are available for just $1.99 each.

    Simply visit the product page, add the 3D Printing License to your cart, and check out!
    *Free 3D Printing License offer expires Sept. 30 at 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    But you are right. They seriously exoect us to go through hundreds, thousands of products that we bought, add the new license to the cart, and check out?

    I clicked that page, and then clicked "show only products you owned" and got 9,800 products.

    Really, DAZ, I'm supposed to go manually add nearly 10,000 items to my cart. Or to 100 carts, because there seems to be a limit to how many items you can put in a cart before cart-astrophy strikes.

    Really, Daz is looking at ways to automate the process so I would wait a bit before grabbing licenses you don't have an immediate need for. This has been posted earlier in the thread.

    I also don't see these licenses, anywhere on the pruduct pages.

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 843

    Petercat said:

    Daz could just change the EULA to allow 3D printing use of anything purchased bfore a certain date. That would make this all so simple.

    The problem is with the PA products, so anything purchased before a specific date and it's a  DAZ item. The question is if DAZ buys a PA product what will happen?

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,258

    Xellosz said:

    Petercat said:

    Daz could just change the EULA to allow 3D printing use of anything purchased bfore a certain date. That would make this all so simple.

    The problem is with the PA products, so anything purchased before a specific date and it's a  DAZ item. The question is if DAZ buys a PA product what will happen?

    It is very uncommon that Daz buys a product from a PA that has already been in the store as a brokered product.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,280

    So I am still on major pain killers and really fuzzy, after being in hospital, but what is this about? Can someone summarize what is going on at this time?

    (I am not up to reading 8 pages, part way through the 1st page I lost what was happening.)

  • memcneil70 said:

    So I am still on major pain killers and really fuzzy, after being in hospital, but what is this about? Can someone summarize what is going on at this time?

    (I am not up to reading 8 pages, part way through the 1st page I lost what was happening.)

    The base license allows you to make 3D prints of models only for personal use - the new license allows commercial use of prints (but not of other ways of making real-world instances, such as injection moulding). The new licenses are free on Daz originals purchased before the 12th of July, for a limited period (to buy - the licenses, once bought, are not time-linmited) - currently therevis no bulk-buy option though Daz has said they are looking into that - and there is time to wait to see what they do without needing to try to make lots of individual purchases.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,280

    So, if I wanted to make a 3d print of a dragon or a wolf, that was a Daz Original, as a gift for a friend or myself, that would be okay and not have to do anything?

    I would need to sign up for additional use (commercial) (if I was good enough) to sell to another and would need to make sure I am signed up for that license? And that is waiting on Daz to find a wait make it easier on us. Okay. That would be nice, since a quick check showed I am currently at 9,264 DOs, some being after that date also.

    Thank you Richard.

  • memcneil70 said:

    So, if I wanted to make a 3d print of a dragon or a wolf, that was a Daz Original, as a gift for a friend or myself, that would be okay and not have to do anything?

    Yes, personal use and pure gifts are both OK.

    I would need to sign up for additional use (commercial) (if I was good enough) to sell to another and would need to make sure I am signed up for that license? And that is waiting on Daz to find a wait make it easier on us. Okay. That would be nice, since a quick check showed I am currently at 9,264 DOs, some being after that date also.

    Yes, or for giving away as a promotional thing for a business undertaking even if the model itself wasn't sold.

    Thank you Richard.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,868
    edited August 2022

    frank0314 said:

    Xellosz said:

    Petercat said:

    Daz could just change the EULA to allow 3D printing use of anything purchased bfore a certain date. That would make this all so simple.

    The problem is with the PA products, so anything purchased before a specific date and it's a  DAZ item. The question is if DAZ buys a PA product what will happen?

    It is very uncommon that Daz buys a product from a PA that has already been in the store as a brokered product.

    But not impossible. A few years ago DAZ bought out virtually all of ironman13's items and there was a very large number of those. Also more recently they bought a number of Protozoon's old musical instruments.

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,145

    Daz soon is in the building. 

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,480
    edited August 2022

    daveso said:

    Daz soon is in the building. 

    Get a bar of lye soap and go wash your mouth outdevil 

    Post edited by Robert Freise on
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,868

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Really, Daz is looking at ways to automate the process so I would wait a bit before grabbing licenses you don't have an immediate need for. This has been posted earlier in the thread.

    I have so many DO products (nearly 15,000) that if I waited to  start adding them manually I wouldn't have time to add the licenses to all of them.

     

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